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  • Larsk
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    Originally posted by eidolon View Post
    However, _in this particular case_, I do wonder if corporate involvement in GNOME does make it more susceptible to actively doing nothing to perturb the status quo or affect change. Or even move.
    I just wanted to point out that Outreachy is not run by GNOME. Since 2015 it has been run by the Software Freedom Conservancy, which I think you can hardly accuse of too much corporate involvement. And yes, the risk of being shutdown, in particular considering the current political climate in the US a very real.

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  • Larsk
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    Originally posted by slacka View Post
    Now more than ever we need to support minority causes. ... does Gnome need to get involved? Gnome should stay clear. They should make decisions based purely on technical merits to maximize their limited resources.
    Actually, Outreachy has been administered by the Software Freedom Conservancy for 2 years now. And in fact the decision process is made on technical merit, by the projects. This works in two ways: some projects fund some Outreachy internships and decide entirely by themselves who gets the internships. Then there are a number of shared slots amongst all projects where mentors rank candidates and the program administrators facilitate the process based on mentors input.

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  • eidolon
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    Originally posted by RahulSundaram View Post

    For individuals, perhaps. For a non-profit U.S organization, the consequences are pretty clear. They will be shutdown.
    Organizations are often better resourced and positioned than individuals to make an impact.

    When people blanketly preach against corporate involvement in open source development, I usually roll my eyes, because I recognize benefits of that involvement. However, _in this particular case_, I do wonder if corporate involvement in GNOME does make it more susceptible to actively doing nothing to perturb the status quo or affect change. Or even move.

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  • RahulSundaram
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    Originally posted by eidolon View Post
    Disobedience of a law on principle is a choice, and there may be consequences for taking a stand sometimes. Or reconstitute elsewhere. But this is a boat that should be rocked.
    For individuals, perhaps. For a non-profit U.S organization, the consequences are pretty clear. They will be shutdown.

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  • eidolon
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    Originally posted by RahulSundaram View Post
    It does mean that they can't just ignore it.
    Disobedience of a law on principle is a choice, and there may be consequences for taking a stand sometimes. Or reconstitute elsewhere. But this is a boat that should be rocked.
    Last edited by eidolon; 18 February 2017, 08:06 PM.

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  • RahulSundaram
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    Originally posted by eidolon View Post
    I acknowledged that this is a result of overreaching US sanctions; that doesn't make it right.
    It does mean that they can't just ignore it.

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  • eidolon
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    Originally posted by bkor View Post
    This is US law.
    I acknowledged that this is a result of overreaching US sanctions; that doesn't make it right.

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  • nils_
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    What about white people from South Africa?

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  • bkor
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    Originally posted by eidolon View Post
    Or grow a pair.
    This is US law.

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  • L_A_G
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    Originally posted by eidolon View Post
    "other than Crimea, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Syria, or Sudan"

    This is discriminatory. Why should developers who identify 'as a women (cis or trans), trans men, or genderqueer people (including genderfluid or genderfree)' from those countries be denied consideration due to geopolitical circumstances outside their individual doing? If the GNOME Foundation is fearful of running afoul of US sanctions and that is driving its lack of inclusiveness in this regard, perhaps it should headquarter itself elsewhere. Or grow a pair.
    They're american and if there's one thing yanks do well, it's being self-centered narcissists. Just look at how they actively ignore women's rights issues in the middle east and the Muslim world (where women lack basic rights like being able to vote, whose testimony in court is by law worth less than half of a man along with just mind boggling things like not being allowed to drive a car). When you point this out to them they usually react by calling you a racist even thou Islam is a religion with followers belonging to every race on the planet.

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