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Yes, Via is still fairly strong in the embedded sector (gambling machines, digital signage).
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Originally posted by droste View PostGetting one large screen isn't the only use case for such cards. If you want to display simple things at different locations, this is a perfect way to do this.
If you don't already have the screens it's cheaper then VGA/DVI/HDMI/DisplayPort cable if you need to run it more then the few feet of cable the screens came with.
If you don't already have some of the pieces on hand there are there are allot of ways to skin this cat.
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Originally posted by Kivada View PostUh, if you need to go THAT big why not go projection or get a few 100" screens? If you actually had to render something on screens of a decent resolution instead of just play back video or static images then even a GTX Titan wouldn't be anywhere near enough grunt to not end up a choppy mess.
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Originally posted by doom_Oo7 View PostSo you are really not aware? They just stopped selling to the consumer market and only focus on professionnal, like medical imagery (some IRMs are made by Matrox for instance) market.
I guess it's the same for VIA.
A while back, when I was looking around for a new monitor in the same resolution bracket as ye olde IBM T221 none of the high end screens I could find like the Eizo FDH3601 mentioned anything about Matrox even though they claimed they where for the medical/engineering/etc. market.
Even so, you'd think that the bigger players would be pushing them out, it's not like AMD and Intel don't make embedded x86 systems. Hell, Intel is trying to shoehorn x86 into a cellphone power envelope these days.
Originally posted by droste View PostThey are still on top with respect to "head count": http://www.matrox.com/graphics/en/pr.../m9188pciex16/ 8 heads!Last edited by Kivada; 15 August 2013, 01:20 AM.
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Originally posted by Kivada View PostIf they are just sitting back and collecting licensing checks then they as a company shouldn't exist anymore. Produce or die.
I guess it's the same for VIA.
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Originally posted by Kivada View PostMatrox at least sold stuff like the Triple Head To Go, though that is largely unnecessary due to GPUs having as many as 6 outs these days, doubt there where all that many people actually connecting them to laptops that only have a single video out.
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Originally posted by doom_Oo7 View PostOh, it's been a long time we didn't see a Matrox graphic card, they must be dead too
If they are just sitting back and collecting licensing checks then they as a company shouldn't exist anymore. Produce or die.
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Originally posted by -jK- View PostHow are ASTC or ETC1/2 replacements for S3TC?- ETC is implemented in software for all desktop drivers atm (and it is very unlikely MESA impl. them in hw before the blob ones do)
- ASTC isn't exposed yet by any drivers as I know (nor is it known how many gpus are able to do it in hw)
So is the future of MESA really to uncompress all current & future texture formats and to not support a single hw accel. compressed texture format?
My view of the future:- ASTC is too complicated, so there won't be many compression libs (see M$'s BC6/7). Neither will there be much driver/hw support. So it won't ever get popular.
- ETC could easily gain popularity (better quality than S3TC), if it would be supported by drivers, but I don't see that in the (near) future
So it still isn't the fault of the engine/content devs that S3TC is preferred.
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Originally posted by Kivada View PostWhen is the last time you say any of their products for sale let alone anyone say they own one? The last time they where even semi interesting was when Nvidia was showing netops at CES with the ION2 chipset being powered by the dual core version of the VIA Nano, a combo that never saw the light of day as an actual product.
Since then AMD and Intel's low end CPU and GPU systems blew them out of the water for the same money spent giving nobody a reason to buy VIA/S3.
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