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  • Linuxhippy
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    Come on

    Yeah just another headline. How many window managers do you plan to benchmark the next weeks?

    Phoronix starts to annoy me.

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  • 3vi1
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    Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
    Gnome fan: "Kwin is bloated".
    KDE fan: "Lol... Yo Mutter is so fat, she weights more than Metacity and Compiz combined!"
    Gnome fan: "Wait-... no.. hey!"
    KDE fan: "Yo Mutter is so fat, when a user click on Activities, she displays all your virtual desktops on one screen!"
    Gnome fan: "STOP IT!"
    Your mutter is so FAT, she's being sued by Microsoft for patent infringement.

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  • Nille_kungen
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    Am i the only one missing kwin in the test?

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  • V!NCENT
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    Originally posted by MaestroMaus View Post
    By the way; is it just me, or is "Mutter" a really bad name for anyone who knows a little bit German?

    For example:"Michael has just tested Mutter".
    Gnome fan: "Kwin is bloated".
    KDE fan: "Lol... Yo Mutter is so fat, she weights more than Metacity and Compiz combined!"
    Gnome fan: "Wait-... no.. hey!"
    KDE fan: "Yo Mutter is so fat, when a user click on Activities, she displays all your virtual desktops on one screen!"
    Gnome fan: "STOP IT!"

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  • bridgman
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    It can't be as bad as "diseased cod"

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  • MaestroMaus
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    Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
    Yeah you posted that twice. How about a reality check so that your ego can have a rest, shall we?

    A while back people wanted to know just how much compositing window managers would affect overal performance. Michael posted the results.

    Right now Michael came back with Mutter added to the known results with Metacity and Compiz required in current form to compare.

    The title was Mutter can cause a performance hit too. This, however, was not a test of whether Mutter would actually cause a performance hit (y/n) but a continuation of previous findings in that Mutter also causes a big difference.

    Sure 2D WM draws to a framebuffer directly while with compositing the 2D drivers just update an offscreen part of the framebuffer while the 3D drivers put together these pieces and draw the actual end result. When in fullscreen 3D the compositing WM's can sorta turn themselves 'off', which shows an incredible performance boost.

    Get over it, smartass...
    I am going to second that (except for the last line).

    By the way; is it just me, or is "Mutter" a really bad name for anyone who knows a little bit German?

    For example: "Michael has just tested Mutter".
    I don't want to be picky about names because I generally don't care but English and German are both not my first language and even I think it's a really bad name.

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  • kazysmaster
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    Originally posted by V!NCENT View Post
    Yeah you posted that twice. How about a reality check so that your ego can have a rest, shall we?
    btw, I just registered to the phoronix and I managed to post twice. I didn't know how to delete the last message... and you're right about my ego

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  • Detructor
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    try playing heroes of newerth (in windowed mode) on a Nvidia Geforce 7800GTX, with the newest driver and compiz disabled...it will take minutes until you see something and your CPU is working like it has to maintain the GPU things aswell.

    if compiz is enabled everything is as it should be...

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  • V!NCENT
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    Originally posted by kazysmaster View Post
    Yeah you posted that twice. How about a reality check so that your ego can have a rest, shall we?

    A while back people wanted to know just how much compositing window managers would affect overal performance. Michael posted the results.

    Right now Michael came back with Mutter added to the known results with Metacity and Compiz required in current form to compare.

    The title was Mutter can cause a performance hit too. This, however, was not a test of whether Mutter would actually cause a performance hit (y/n) but a continuation of previous findings in that Mutter also causes a big difference.

    Sure 2D WM draws to a framebuffer directly while with compositing the 2D drivers just update an offscreen part of the framebuffer while the 3D drivers put together these pieces and draw the actual end result. When in fullscreen 3D the compositing WM's can sorta turn themselves 'off', which shows an incredible performance boost.

    Get over it, smartass...

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  • madman2k
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    Originally posted by d2kx View Post
    Sometimes 50% faster, sometimes 50% slower 3D performance with just another window manager WHAT THE ****
    michael just fails at getting any benchmark right. If you have vsync enabled you get 60fps in a quake3 based game. If you dont you hit the 90fps limit by the engine. Thats why serious benchmarking sites disable the ingame limit and EITHER compare with vsync on or vsync off..

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