Mesa 24.3 Delivers Big Performance Win For Aging AMD Navi 10 GPUs

[Eirikr1848]

Interesting to see some previous benchmark results vs new drivers on this as well as the GFX6/7 cards.

[pWe00Iri3e7Z9lHOX2Qx]

Sadly, FSR3 frame gen doesn't yet work well on RADV



I'm curious to see the results if you want to share.

Some quick results below. I wasn't trying to maximize performance on any card. I just wanted to see how well FSR 3 frame generation works, and how viable RDNA 1 cards are for modern AAA games if you leverage upscaling + frame gen. This was on Aurora Linux (fancy Kinoite), kernel 6.11.6, Mesa 24.2.4. I used a 67% scale factor since that is the threshold for the "quality" setting with FSR 3 per https://gpuopen.com/fidelityfx-super-resolution-3/.

6700 XT

1440p High / Upscaling / Frame Gen:



1440p High / Upscaling:



5700 XT

1440p High / Upscaling / Frame Gen:

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1440p High / Upscaling:



And for funsies, a weak RDNA 1 Radeon Pro W5500 1080p Medium / Upscaling / Frame gen:

[varikonniemi]

No gamer would use Rx 5600 or slower in 2024. Totally useless for 1440p.

you have a very elitist and narrow concept of a gamer which probably does not catch more than 20%

To me anything on RDNA architecture is a modern gfx card.

[Anux]

Just out of curiosity, what would be the current gen equivalent to my 580?

My 480 is equal or better than RX 6400 and the 580 should be between 6400 and 6500 XT. The 8 GB version can handle high textures better than a modern 4GB cheapo.

The real sad thing is however, that I would have to pay more (I'm comparing used prices) than back then just to get roughly the same performance but this is also just the halve picture because those low end cards only come with 8x PCIe interface and if your platform has only PCIe 3.0 like mine it could actually be slower than those "old aging" cards.
I'm still waiting for reasonable prices before I go hunting for graphics cards, and I want at least double the performance for the same money.

Also there is no need for me to upgrade, as long as I can play all the games I want, just put the detail slider to the left.

The 400 and 500 series were damn good for the money they asked. I had the hope with Intel entering that marked we might get to such a situation again but mehh.

No gamer would use Rx 5600 or slower in 2024. Totally useless for 1440p.

So how do you call those million of people that play games on slower cards? And since when is gamer defined by the graphics card and not by the act of gaming? I'm confused.

[tildearrow]

I have an old GPU. A Radeon HD7670

Will this work for me xD?

Nope. This is for AMD cards released in 2019.

[pWe00Iri3e7Z9lHOX2Qx]

I'm curious to see the results if you want to share.

I started some of the 6700 XT testing earlier. I should be able to finish that up and test the 5700 XT sometime this weekend also. I think for funsies I'll try to do a 1080p and 720p look at the much weaker Radeon Pro W5500 too. I'm not trying to get the best possible results from any card, I'm just curious how well the frame generation works between them and how viable RDNA 1 is with it.

[skeevy420]

No gamer would use Rx 5600 or slower in 2024. Totally useless for 1440p.

My 6700 XT is also totally useless for 1440p in 2024 if I to use frame rates above 90hz with high settings

There's something to be said about using hardware within its capabilities and not at its limits.

[zimudec]

I have an old GPU. A Radeon HD7670

Will this work for me xD?

[Venemo]

I actually wanted to do some testing of FSR 3 frame generation between RDNA 1 and RDNA 2.

Sadly, FSR3 frame gen doesn't yet work well on RADV

Later this week I'll try to do some quick 5700 XT vs 6700 XT testing at 1080p and 1440p with / without frame generation.

I'm curious to see the results if you want to share.

[MekaDragon]

Amazing. I still have a RX 5700XT rocking, it still holds for 1080@144hz quite well.

But will this be enabled by defauit for my card? Reading this issue make me think that it will, but I don't know if I just have to wait to upgrade Mesa and that's it.

Also, my distro has different Mesa and Mesa Vulkan versions. I don't know which one of those should be at 24.3:
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