Apple Silicon OpenGL & Vulkan Drivers Updated In Mesa 24.3 Git

[xhustler]

It is certainly easy on the eyes and polished. Like a pretty toy. However, often, I want to be productive on my computer and sadly MacOS ruins it.

My experience is the exact opposite. Almost everyone talks about how customizable open-source DEs are and how one can get things done in a myriad ways. Whilst I was a techie and middle manager, I enjoyed this immensely.

Now that am at C level, I don't want to waste my time learning 1000 friggin' ways to skin a cat. I just want one efficient way that works.

[jonkoops]

No he's right about graphics. Remember the whole situation when Apple sold Macbooks with defective Nvidia chips?

We're talking specifically about Linux support for their new M-series hardware, no such defects exist there. You can grab any large vendor and cherry-pick from their history to justify a similar response. Try to stay on topic at the very least.

[YamashitaRen]

Now that am at C level, I don't want to waste my time learning 1000 friggin' ways to skin a cat. I just want one efficient way that works.

Too bad if the one and only proposed way does not work for you... which is my case. I cannot suffer OSX Window Management.

[smitty3268]

Well yes, and it shows.

Do you have any links to good places I can learn about this? I did a quick couple google searches, and most of what i found seemed to say it's not that different.

I think the main things I found were that it can be updated remotely unlike a TPM, and we don't know what that will mean in the future. Are we sure SE can't be updated? Seems unlikely. The other thing I saw was just people saying that pluton was still kind of full of unknowns and people weren't sure what it did yet, which is maybe because those were written a while ago before full implementations were out. Is there a good current source on it you can share?

[intelfx]

Do you have any links to good places I can learn about this? I did a quick couple google searches, and most of what i found seemed to say it's not that different.

I'd suggest reading research papers on exploitation of the SEP, or perhaps there are any writeups by the Asahi folks.

I think the main things I found were that it can be updated remotely unlike a TPM, and we don't know what that will mean in the future. Are we sure SE can't be updated? Seems unlikely. The other thing I saw was just people saying that pluton was still kind of full of unknowns and people weren't sure what it did yet, which is maybe because those were written a while ago before full implementations were out. Is there a good current source on it you can share?

It does not matter one bit that it can be updated remotely, or that it has more processing power than a TPM, or anything else of that sort.

It simply does not have unlimited access to the rest of the system: it cannot meaningfully affect (or snoop on) the AP or the main memory or any peripherals except specific ones that have something to do with security and authentication (like biometrics readers). Also I'm not talking about Pluton, I'm talking about the SEP and the SEP only.