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  • #31
    Originally posted by c117152 View Post
    What the fuchsia? You are right!

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    • #32
      Originally posted by reba View Post

      Wait - but they still do handwriting, don't they?
      I'm sure pens aren't phased out entirely, but cursive not so important.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Quackdoc View Post

        they literally added gfxstream to mesa partially because of fuscia OS, gfxstream is even mentioned in the PR.
        Do you know what gfxstream does? https://android.googlesource.com/pla...gle/gfxstream/

        It's for serializing API calls across applications, whether there's actual GPU acceleration backing those calls or not.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by coder View Post
          Did you make a typo, or did those jerks reuse the ChromeOS name for two completely different operating systems?
          Typo. corrected.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by coder View Post
            Deprecations are more than proposals. It's an announcement that support is going away in the next kernel release.
            They would be more than proposals if they actually resulted in the architectures being removed. Many of the more bizarre architectures I listed have been proposed for removal SEVERAL times over the years, but alas are still here.
            Originally posted by coder View Post
            Obviously, most of the examples are going to be weird offshoots, like Xeon Phi, just because there are a lot more of those than distinct ISAs, but there are other examples like IA64.
            IA64 is maybe the ONLY architecture that has actually been deprecated. Phi never shipped in a product in any meaningful way. All the rest of those I listed? Still here.

            I'll restate it here: it seems the only actual REMOVALS that happen are in places like x86 and PowerPC to get rid of weird early pentiums or early 40x chips that are inconvenient to work around when making improvements for modern hardware.

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            • #36
              Wasn’t Fuchsia meant to replace Android? What happened to that? Are there actually any devices for sale today that run Fuchsia? Or is this still a Google-internal research operating system?

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              • #37
                Originally posted by rhadlee View Post
                Wasn’t Fuchsia meant to replace Android? What happened to that? Are there actually any devices for sale today that run Fuchsia? Or is this still a Google-internal research operating system?
                people keep saying this, but I havent seen any indication that it was ever going to replace android, it could be used as a phone OS, and still can, but I havent seen anything suggesting that fuscia developers ever wanted to actually supplant android

                Originally posted by Developer12 View Post

                Do you know what gfxstream does? https://android.googlesource.com/pla...gle/gfxstream/

                It's for serializing API calls across applications, whether there's actual GPU acceleration backing those calls or not.
                whether it's a "simple" driver or not, it's still a vulkan driver, it accelerates vulkan calls.​ It requires both a kernel and userland driver, Im not sure how it could be classified as anything but a real vulkan driver. but even without that, it supports mali, virtiogpu, and some intel gpus

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Developer12 View Post

                  Three OSs for three different market segments.

                  ChromeOS for something almost like a PC, based on a linux kernel. Has a near-fully-fledged desktop linux experience.

                  Android, also based on linux but is intended for phones. Has an almost totally custom userspace oriented to touchscreen interaction and apps and app isolation.

                  Fuschia, a custom OS for hardware that is too low-spec to run linux. If you need a smart speaker that doesn't do anything more than relay speaker/mic audio over the network, this is the OS for you. It's better than writing one-off baremetal firmware.
                  ChromeOS isnt "Desktop Linux". Neither is ChromeOS or Android a Linux distro.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by hedonist View Post

                    ChromeOS isnt "Desktop Linux". Neither is ChromeOS or Android a Linux distro.
                    chromeOS is a desktop linux, it runs linux binaries, run a linux userspace, even provides a wayland server, and you can even use chromebrew.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by hedonist View Post

                      ChromeOS isnt "Desktop Linux". Neither is ChromeOS or Android a Linux distro.
                      Define "Linux Distro".

                      "A Linux distribution[a] (often abbreviated as distro) is an operating system made from a software collection that includes the Linux kernel and often a package management system.​" - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_distribution

                      You should try changing that on Wikipedia if you think it's wrong.

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