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  • mSparks
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    Originally posted by Myownfriend View Post

    Do you think Waydroid is part of Wayland and not its own project?
    Not my problem. Googles X11 version works better anyway. I'd already uninstalled it before I uninstalled wayland.
    Last edited by mSparks; 17 April 2024, 05:06 PM.

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  • Myownfriend
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    Originally posted by mSparks View Post

    e.g. waydroid requires it.

    I don't care any more. Not my problem
    Do you think Waydroid is part of Wayland and not its own project?

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  • mSparks
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    Originally posted by Myownfriend View Post


    Do you think Wayland disables kernel permissions, selinux, and any other methods of security?
    e.g. waydroid requires it.

    I don't care any more. Not my problem.

    Originally posted by Myownfriend View Post
    The only things that no longer apply in a Wayland session are things that are X-specific.
    well, yeah, dropping another 40 years of hard learned security lessons without replacing them with anything so you can "safely" install software from people who write keyloggers.... that alone is good enough reason for me to uninstall it.

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  • duby229
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    Originally posted by rabcor View Post
    Ok i am a bit confused, what is explicit sync? cuz the way i understood it, explicit sync on wayland was there so u could turn vsync off, for the first time in wayland history, cuz some absolute low iq jackasses designed the damn thing.

    What does this bring us on x11?
    The only thing this does for anyone is nVidia users. It allows xwayland to function as expected on nVidia hardware. Intel or AMD users won't notice any difference.

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  • Myownfriend
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    Originally posted by mSparks View Post

    that is what wayland does,

    to protect against the keyloggers.

    I uninstalled it, because I am in the minority that do find that malicious.

    Id rather stick with xauthority, ssh untrusted forwarding and xsecurelock, kernel permissions/selinux etc.
    What the fuck are you talking about? It doesn't disable other methods of security in order to just protect against keyloggers. Are you playing dumb right now?

    Do you think Wayland disables kernel permissions, selinux, and any other methods of security? The only things that no longer apply in a Wayland session are things that are X-specific.

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  • mSparks
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    Originally posted by Myownfriend View Post

    What are you on exactly? When was it ever even suggested that other means of security would be thrown out the window and security will be handled exclusively by Wayland?
    that is what wayland does,

    to protect against the keyloggers.

    I uninstalled it, because I am in the minority that do find that malicious.

    Id rather stick with xauthority, ssh untrusted forwarding and xsecurelock, kernel permissions/selinux etc.
    Last edited by mSparks; 17 April 2024, 11:22 AM.

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  • Brittle2
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    Originally posted by Weasel View Post
    It's for mesa you dumbfuck and I literally said that in my fucking post at the very beginning of it. I also said that X11 had it already so WHY THE FUCK WOULD X11 EVEN GET IT if it worked with Nvidia for decades now? Just for reference in case you didn't know: Nvidia does not use Mesa.

    Get off the internet you god damn illiterate jokester, you can't even read properly, stop fucking quoting people with your shit and stay in your crippled circus called Wayland.
    are you mad bro?

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  • Weasel
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    Originally posted by Brittle2 View Post
    this is for xwayland not xorg dumbass
    It's for mesa you dumbfuck and I literally said that in my fucking post at the very beginning of it. I also said that X11 had it already so WHY THE FUCK WOULD X11 EVEN GET IT if it worked with Nvidia for decades now? Just for reference in case you didn't know: Nvidia does not use Mesa.

    Get off the internet you god damn illiterate jokester, you can't even read properly, stop fucking quoting people with your shit and stay in your crippled circus called Wayland.
    Last edited by Weasel; 17 April 2024, 10:00 AM.

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  • Myownfriend
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    Originally posted by mSparks View Post

    Which, obviously, linux is really well known for, which is why you should just throw out all the existing mechanisms to prevent it and let wayland handle it all for you. Trust them, it will be much better, pinky promise.

    I mean, who better to trust with your entire system security than the authors of display compositor no one uses.

    for extra credits, also run everything as root like waydroid does to 100% protect yourself from any privilege escalation vulnerabilities that may otherwise sneak in.
    What are you on exactly? When was it ever even suggested that other means of security would be thrown out the window and security will be handled exclusively by Wayland? Nobody said that ever. Wayland just fulfills the remaining tasks that X11 was still being used for but it's implemented in a more secure way than X11. That's all.

    Wayland's model is an additional level of security, not a replacement for other security.

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  • mSparks
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    Originally posted by Brittle2 View Post

    this is for xwayland not xorg dumbass
    xcb has sweet fa to do with xwayland.

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