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  • Charlie68
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    Originally posted by mangeek View Post

    I do. I use it daily on machines ranging from my own laptop, to the Raspberry Pis floating around the house, to big 20-core Xeons at work.

    Having an LTS release that includes major library and infrastructure improvement changes the whole ecosystem. If LTS 22.04 has the latest Mesa, SDL2, XWayland, OpenSSL, GTK4, and some other stuff, then the people maintaining thousands of in-tree and third-party packages that run on Ubuntu can free themselves from supporting legacy libraries and technologies sooner. Whatever version of Mesa lands in Ubuntu 22.04 is going to be running on a lot of stuff five years from now.
    Everyone wants it but will only get it when it's available, regardless of distribution.

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  • Sonadow
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    The only people who will care about not having the latest Mesa on a distribution release are the ones who are too ignorant and incapable of building their own updated version of Mesa from source.

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  • mangeek
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    Originally posted by Charlie68 View Post
    I say this without controversy ... who cares about Ubuntu!
    I do. I use it daily on machines ranging from my own laptop, to the Raspberry Pis floating around the house, to big 20-core Xeons at work.

    Having an LTS release that includes major library and infrastructure improvement changes the whole ecosystem. If LTS 22.04 has the latest Mesa, SDL2, XWayland, OpenSSL, GTK4, and some other stuff, then the people maintaining thousands of in-tree and third-party packages that run on Ubuntu can free themselves from supporting legacy libraries and technologies sooner. Whatever version of Mesa lands in Ubuntu 22.04 is going to be running on a lot of stuff five years from now.

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  • Danny3
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    LOL, it would be very funny to see how Ubuntu developers will explain using in Ubuntu 22.04 LTS Mesa 22, but not Linux kernel 5.16 or 5.17
    Anyway, good for Mesa developers for delaying the release for better stuff to be integrated compared to other projects that use the stupid date release and come out with subpar things.

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  • Charlie68
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    Originally posted by fagnerln View Post

    I care. And I don't even use Ubuntu or any Ubuntu based distro.

    Ubuntu LTS is a great distro, and every LTS releases are noticed by everyone. Don't matter if you use any other distro, you will know.

    Would be nice if Ubuntu 22.04 releases with Mesa 22, but if isn't possible, too bad.
    I didn't say the opposite ... simply people like me who have been using Linux for years, know that projects are hardly synchronized with distribution releases and Mesa is no exception.
    That an Ubuntu user then hopes that Mesa 22 can get on the next Ubuntu Lts is legitimate, but as a non-Ubuntu user I don't care at all, as I think it doesn't matter to anyone who doesn't use Ubuntu.
    I prefer to avoid Mesa speeding up to please Ubuntu, but release it when it's ready.

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  • fagnerln
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    Originally posted by Charlie68 View Post
    I say this without controversy ... who cares about Ubuntu!
    I mean ... it's not the only distribution and I don't think Canonical pays Mesa developers.
    Software release cycles are rarely connected to distribution releases, and Ubuntu is no exception.
    Maybe the Ubuntu geniuses make a mixture of Mesa versions, they are good at making jumble.
    I care. And I don't even use Ubuntu or any Ubuntu based distro.

    Ubuntu LTS is a great distro, and every LTS releases are noticed by everyone. Don't matter if you use any other distro, you will know.

    Would be nice if Ubuntu 22.04 releases with Mesa 22, but if isn't possible, too bad.

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  • MadeUpName
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    Nooooooooooo....

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  • olielvewen
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    phoronix

    You often test graphics cards but it would be good for ordinary people to write an article on Radeon / amd with Manjaro, Archlinux, Ubuntu,…others ?

    Indeed, we often hear about Mesa, x86-video, amdgpu, amdgpu-pro, drm, catalyst, Adrenaline, proprietary pilots, Vulkan, OpenGl, OpenCl, VDapau, x11, Wayland,… Personally, I am lost and that makes 17 years that I am on Linux and it is always so mysterious and moreover each wiki of the distributions mentioned speaks about different things for the same subject.

    And since we are there, it would be good to do the same on the side of Nvidia. And pin theses articles to the forum or somewhere.

    In advance, thank you for all these people of which I am a part (for Amd).

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  • Charlie68
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    I say this without controversy ... who cares about Ubuntu!
    I mean ... it's not the only distribution and I don't think Canonical pays Mesa developers.
    Software release cycles are rarely connected to distribution releases, and Ubuntu is no exception.
    Maybe the Ubuntu geniuses make a mixture of Mesa versions, they are good at making jumble.
    Last edited by Charlie68; 13 January 2022, 03:54 PM.

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  • r1348
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    Originally posted by cl333r View Post

    More genius remarks: And if you're out of ice you can always get some from Antarctica.
    There are several third-party repos for the major distros that provide regular git snapshot versions of mesa.

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