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  • #21
    Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
    I've never had the slightest interest in discrete graphics for laptops, though, I can't imagine AMD had especially bad choices. Vega APUs are actually pretty good in terms of performance-per-watt, but, I'm not sure if AMD ever made discrete Vega graphics for laptops.
    By terrible I was mainly referring to the choice selection, pretty much 95%+ of all mid tier (and higher) laptops that had a discrete graphics card were using NVidia. Even personally for my case, I needed to get a new laptop a year ago with a discrete graphics card, went with Lenovo and yeah the only option was NVidia.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
      It's been hard to recommend Nvidia to Linux users for a couple years now. AMD's Linux drivers are fantastic.
      Only for very specific specialized tasks will I touch anything NVIDIA (.e.g. At work with some components of SolidWorks). Anything else it's AMD or Intel. No open source drivers I won't touch it.
      Last edited by brad0; 01 December 2020, 06:09 PM.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by mdedetrich View Post
        By terrible I was mainly referring to the choice selection, pretty much 95%+ of all mid tier (and higher) laptops that had a discrete graphics card were using NVidia.
        Odd. I look at tons of laptops and rarely run into NVidia GPUs. It's almost always AMD for discrete GPUs.

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        • #24
          I'm hoping this work means AMD is trying to completely ditch the proprietary OGL driver on Linux and migrate all their pro customers to the open stack. I suspect that it's hit the point where it's less expensive to get RadeonSI up to par in these kinds of workloads than to keep putting effort into keeping their proprietary OGL driver Linux-compatible.

          Between this and MS/Collabora's work on Gallium3D over D3D12, maybe AMD will finally ditch the entire proprietary OGL codebase? Actually seems plausible, considering Zink is able to hit 95% native performance nowadays, I see no reason the D3D12 layer couldn't also. Also Windows 10X is coming soon, and pretty sure only the D3D12 layer will be supported there.

          Mesa is slowly taking over the entire (graphics) world, and I for one couldn't be happier.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by schmidtbag View Post
            4. Diehard Nvidia fans. There are proportionately fewer of them in the Linux community, but they do exist. Many of them also happen to be Wayland haters lol.
            It's funny how I kind of wish Linux was more popular so that there would be more AAA game titles to play etc. Then again, there's all the RGB LED crowd jerking off to the leather jacket guy "baking" new GPUs..

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            • #26
              Originally posted by dylanmtaylor View Post

              I switched from a 980 Ti to a Radeon VII a while back and my experience using AMD's drivers has been fantastic.
              Yeah, I've been told about Radeon VII has an enormous compute ability... My impression from what I've heard 2nd hand is that if AMD had a viable competition to Cuda, then in that case the Radeon VII would hold the compute crown hands down. I've seen the benchmark results, it's highly impressive.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by andre30correia View Post
                Amd need to put more people in all their drivers, it's only thing missing at this point great hardware again but need a lot of improvements in their drivers cpu and gpu to catch up the quality of nvidia at least
                Honestly, Nvidia seemly higher performance is through quirks and hacks within their driver especially for the Linux kernel. Thanks in part to the Ryen successes, AMD is recovering and hiring more developers.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by prueba_hola View Post
                  someday AMD will have a GUI panel control
                  It comes with your desktop in whatever shape and form your desktop implements it.

                  There was a long discussion about this and it was agreed that there is no need for a UI only specific to AMD.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by CochainComplex View Post
                    I dont want to have bad drivers on release day.
                    Every AMD new GPU release for the past few years. Especially on Linux.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by finalzone View Post
                      Thanks in part to the Ryen successes, AMD is recovering and hiring more developers.
                      Yeaaaahhhh, that's a bullshit excuse. AMD isn't some three-person band working out of a garage, they're a huge company with hundreds of millions of dollars. They can afford to hire enough developers to write proper quality drivers for all of their hardware and have it ready ahead of release.

                      Their Linux support is just crap compared to Intel's. If review and benchmark sites were told that drivers/CPU software wasn't ready at launch, and will only be released a few months later, or that they have to build unstable software from scratch themselves, in order to benchmark/review the hardware, they would NOT be providing favourable reviews for AMD. AMD would have been thrashed publicly.

                      AMD's Linux support has just been inexcusably bad for a decade - I'm happy they're working on open source drivers and actually have a Linux team, but let's not act like it's for our benefit - these are all AMD hardware specific code, which only benefits AMD and their customers. So the fact that their Linux support is still in such shambles is disgraceful.

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