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  • marlock
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    I'm sorry if my post feels like a misinterpretation of your tone, but:

    1) it's hard to judge tone in text
    2) given the easily demonstrable/reproducible phenomenom of fast toxicity escalation in Phoronix forum comments regarding the subject of inclusive wording/naming, it's easy to imagine why I read it like I did
    3) I don't regret criticizing the line of thought, regardless of your tone, because Vallium is not automatically regarded as a "rape drug" and the only kind of argumentation this remark can attract to the forum is just as toxic as I portraid... "rape apology" is the obvious subtext to interpreting the medicine as a rape drug and you are 100% responsible for bringing in that context, not me, so it still remains an unhappy choice of conversational focus, setting the stage to yet another 100-comment rage which has nothing to do with the dev's work

    ps: people who are native english speakers may not realize this, but mostly any word not interpretable as offensive in english will still have some similarly written/sounding word with possible offensive connotations in some other language... especially if you count words which have multiple connotations, and even more so if you count words with a perfectly fine most common use but with a secondary use that is somehow offensive

    should we ban "eggplant" because the corresponding emoji started being used for male organs... should we rename Clam Antivirus (despite the obvious hardened shell protection metaphor) because it is also used to refer to female organs? etc, etc, etc...

    the offense here is purely constructed by a malicious reading of the name after taken out of context, not by common use, not by any extra hint given by the dev...

    ...and that is going way overboard in what inclusive namespaces should (and is proposing) to do, because what is being attempted now is more precise and more specific and more well aimed, eg. removing stuff with well-known racist backstory like "whitelist" and "blacklist" where their meaning was *defined* by racists and only later used in non-racist contexts, so your remark is also counterproductive as it murkies this fundamental difference (not on purpose, but it does help blur it out)

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  • orome
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    Originally posted by marlock View Post
    I am in favor of inclusive and welcoming working environments, but I feel compeled to draw a line here...

    The dev is working on a tool that bridges Vulkan + gALLIUM3d, hence aptly naming it after a joint lettering which also happens to be a medicine, with well known and well established legitimate uses.

    But of course, nothing says 'welcoming environment' like screaming "rape apologist" to a dev that has done nothing of the sort, right? I'm also sure people will feel much more at ease with that kind of toxic baseless accusation flying around all the time in than they would with the chosen name, right?
    There was no accusation in my comment, other than poor naming judgement.
    YOU started throwing toxic accusations around. but I guess, whatever serves your self-righteous outrage.

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  • pete910
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    Originally posted by orome View Post
    Nothing says 'welcoming environment' better than naming a component after a rape drug...
    Seriously !

    I've read some daft comments but that's one of the worst.

    Also it's Rohypnol that's associated with date rape.

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  • marlock
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    I am in favor of inclusive and welcoming working environments, but I feel compeled to draw a line here...

    The dev is working on a tool that bridges Vulkan + gALLIUM3d, hence aptly naming it after a joint lettering which also happens to be a medicine, with well known and well established legitimate uses.

    But of course, nothing says 'welcoming environment' like screaming "rape apologist" to a dev that has done nothing of the sort, right? I'm also sure people will feel much more at ease with that kind of toxic baseless accusation flying around all the time in than they would with the chosen name, right?

    How about commenting on the technical merits of the project instead?

    Like, is it useful in SBCs like old Raspberry Pis for quick Vulkan support where no direct driver support exists?

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  • orome
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    [STRIKE]Nothing says 'welcoming environment' better than naming a component after a rape drug... [/STRIKE]

    It shares a name with medication used as data rape drug

    EDIT: Just because some have trouble understanding; It's comment on the poor choice of name, nothing else. Just as using 'master' branch has negative connotations, 'vallium' is a poor choice of name. All it takes is to check associated meaning of a word before picking a name.

    EDIT2: reworded to stop needlessly trigering people.
    Last edited by orome; 17 August 2020, 02:13 PM.

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  • VALLIUM Merged Into Mesa 20.3 As Vulkan Front-End To Gallium3D

    Phoronix: VALLIUM Merged Into Mesa 20.3 As Vulkan Front-End To Gallium3D

    Red Hat's David Airlie has been on quite a spree lately with open-source graphics driver improvements from OpenGL 4 for LLVMpipe to now merging "VALLIUM" for a Vulkan software implementation...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...VALLIUM-Merged
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