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Originally posted by karolherbst View Post
even in this case I would prefer if that somebody tells me that he simply wanted to troll. I don't mind that at all. But it might be even that this person has a bug which wasn't fixed yet or any other valid reason to be disappointed.
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Originally posted by karolherbst View Post
why the hateful comment?
I mean sure, if you want proper OpenSource support you should most likely buy AMD or Intel, but your comment is so out of context that it seems to be totally misplaced. If that would be some article about Nvidia not helping out or big troubles the Nouveau project isn't able to solve, then it would have made sense, but not like this.
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Originally posted by rene View Post
What was hateful? just a summary of the situation of signed firmware nonsense and no proper open register specs. Great fan of the nouveau folks though, they do miracle work in light of everything nvidia is doing to help them, not. But if I have the choice, I rather buy an AMD GPU, … As IMHO every Linux user should by voting with their wallet.
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Originally posted by rene View PostLT;DR - do not support / buy Nvidia GPUs for use with open source systems.
But that was with linux 4.9. I'm planning on trying again with linux 4.14
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Originally posted by karolherbst View Postwhy the hateful comment? ... If that would be some article about Nvidia not helping out or big troubles the Nouveau project isn't able to solve, then it would have made sense, but not like this.
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Originally posted by karolherbst View Post
yeah, I am one of them. Just wondering what brings somebody to randomly post such comments.
It is a simple fact that as costumers we can mostly voice our opinions with our purchases. So yes, if somebody cares about open source systems, they should not buy nVidia hardware at all, if possible. Unfortunately, these days that is becoming increasingly difficult with the mining craze and the much better availability of nVidia cards. I also had to buy nVidia, because the AMD competition was basically non-existent.
It is just maddening how nVidia handles the open source community that is doing them a favour by providing choice for nVidia users. Nouveau is one of the most amazing open source project out there, simply because they kept going despite this hostility. Their drivers are actually really good, for instance my backup GPU (BFG Tech 8800 GTS 320MB) works flawlessly with Nouveau... which just gives a hint of what Nouveau would be capable of if it wasn't for nVidia's hostility.
So yeah, I guess... thank You for your work!
Kind regards,
A GTX 970 ownerLast edited by OneBitUser; 03 November 2017, 04:23 PM.
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I also think that nouveau devs are doing a great job, an admirable job despite the obstacles. It's thanks to you guys that we're able to have a functional GUI. This matters a lot to me, as old computers will sometimes have a second life if you can install Linux on them, and one of the basic requirements for the average user is having a GUI. Without good drivers, your options are going to be several limited in terms of desktop environments, let alone proper video decoding (who doesn't watch YouTube & co nowadays?).
However, that bit about nvidia not releasing necessary firmware for proper opertaion is enough to spark hatred towards them, so I completely understand people posting negative comments regarding that company.
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Originally posted by Girolamo_Cavazzoni View PostI think nouveau can be useful in case you want to buy an older, second-hand graphics card from Kepler or Maxwell v1 generation but don't want to handle the proprietary driver. Some of these cards still resp. already perform decent, like the 650 or 750 series.
It's a matter of choice, and nouveau increases the amount of choices there are. Thank you for that!
It died many times but putting it in an oven (to melt the traces or something) would put it back to work, until it didn't anymore.
It felt short of supporting Valve's linux version of Source engine, even on proprietary driver. Too bad! But I wouldn't mind indeed having a 650, 640, GT610 (still Fermi), GT710 (still Kepler) etc.
Was dumbfounded to find that a Radeon 5450 is slower than the 7600GT, at least for what I've tried it on, despite the 7600GT dating back to frigging 2006.
Would have like an 8600GT, 9500GT etc. but they had poor shelf lives, lead-free solder or similar issue killed them prematurely (had *two* 8400GS. unlike the 5450 they did perform as expected, but that was on proprietary linux driver and on windows. they died)
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