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  • Originally posted by bridgman View Post

    I love it. That has to be translated from some other language than English, am I right ?
    No, he was talking about nvidia's actions... Over-reactions they take that seriously hurt themselves with the OSS communities. That was my point.

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    • Originally posted by duby229 View Post

      You do make an excellent point. I can't honestly say I know what's going on in China in this matter. But I think I can say with reasonable sureness that it's not happening at that scale in the rest of the world. If accurate then its akin to to cutting off the right hand to spite the left.
      Yeah, I even agree with you on the latter. Many of the sellers on eBay could even have been just people buying knock-offs from retail in China and later putting them up on eBay as private citizens. Regardless. Since capital does not have borders, each such card is basically still lost revenue for Nvidia whether the fake cards were sold in China, US or Europe.

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      • Originally posted by duby229 View Post
        No, he was talking about nvidia's actions... Over-reactions they take that seriously hurt themselves with the OSS communities. That was my point.
        Sorry, I meant the saying about the cold and the achilles tendon, not the actions that prompted the comment.

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        • Originally posted by bridgman View Post

          Sorry, I meant the saying about the cold and the achilles tendon, not the actions that prompted the comment.
          Yeah, that's exactly what I was saying. See nVidia seriously hurts themselves with the oss communities. It was an analogy. Much like how cutting your own achilles tendon would hurt yourself.

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          • Could someone please suggest me if my Dell Latitude E6520 with a Nvidia Quadro NVS 4200M and integrated Intel HD 3000 will run better with the propietary drivers or Noveau ones? Cheers

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            • Originally posted by horizonbrave View Post
              Could someone please suggest me if my Dell Latitude E6520 with a Nvidia Quadro NVS 4200M and integrated Intel HD 3000 will run better with the propietary drivers or Noveau ones? Cheers
              Well, this is just my opinion, but you'll get a better 3d experience with the proprietary drivers. And you'll get a better desktop experience with Nouveau. Nouveau suffers from lack of help from nvidia and the most complex parts of the driver aren't well supported. On the other hand Nvidia's DDX driver, IMO, is the worst DDX driver of them all at this current time.

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              • Originally posted by duby229 View Post

                Well, this is just my opinion, but you'll get a better 3d experience with the proprietary drivers. And you'll get a better desktop experience with Nouveau. Nouveau suffers from lack of help from nvidia and the most complex parts of the driver aren't well supported. On the other hand Nvidia's DDX driver, IMO, is the worst DDX driver of them all at this current time.
                Yes. Oddly enough, gnome-shell was faster with nouveau at low clocks than nvidia at high clocks. It was the opposite result with 3d applications.

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                • I would gladly play games on Windows and everything else on Gnu Linux / AMD

                  Late this year I am selling this GTX card!

                  Very disappointed!

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                  • Originally posted by oooverclocker View Post
                    Ubuntu ore something - release without merging and compiling code.
                    It is so stupid not to tune your operating system when you can, in a gaming/multimedia/office PC especially. Each such a Linux user should create a custom non debug 1000Hz timer kernel and remove unneeded drivers and services.

                    [email protected]:~$ systemd-analyze time
                    Startup finished in 2.012s (kernel) + 1.359s (userspace) = 3.372s

                    Nouveau GT8400 PC:
                    systemd-analyze time Startup finished in 761ms (kernel) + 1.719s (userspace) = 2.480s

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                    • And couple of seconds and 5 fps in 3D are making what kind of difference? None, really.
                      Are you rebooting in every 30sec?
                      While gaming - 30fps or 35fps feel equally laggy and with 100fps or 105fps it feels equally smooth.

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