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  • smitty3268
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    Originally posted by bridgman View Post

    The ATI/AMD open source drivers are used with a number of different CPU architectures - PowerPC, MIPS, ARM among others. Sounds like it's the same for Nouveau... might even be true for Intel but it would be hard to scrape the iGPU off the x86 die to find out
    Well, supposedly. I think if you actually try and use it you run into all sorts of bugs due to the endianness issues, and Intel doesn't even try and handle any of that in their driver. I saw someone was recently trying to fix some of the r600g issues on power5, not sure how far along they got.
    Last edited by smitty3268; 01 April 2016, 10:04 PM.

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  • GreatEmerald
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    Originally posted by andre30correia View Post
    what DE you use?
    Plasma 5.

    Originally posted by karolherbst View Post
    you might want to report what dmesg throws out when the GPU locks up. We really want to get this stable and any bug report help here.
    I already have, the bug report has been up for a few years now: https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=69882

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  • abu_shawarib
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    Nouveau serves a purpose, but I guess 3D aint one of them.

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  • rene
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    Originally posted by darkcoder View Post

    Huhhhh?


    Last time I checked third party video cards relied on an X86 family CPU!

    And kernel/xorg releases.. Yes that's a pain, ....
    I do not know what you are mixing up there, with "third party video cards relied on X86 family CPU".
    This sentence makes so no sense to me, ...

    Last time I checked some old Radeon run just fine in my UltraSPARC, and the Matrox in the IBM RS6000 was working as fine as the Radeon or now Nouveau Nvidia in my PowerPC64 G5, ...

    Forgot which card I had in the IA64 before that ship sunk, etc. pp: http://t2-project.org/architectures/

    PS: Maybe your point was binary only crap was mostly available for iX86 only. Which would proof my point anyways, …

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  • rene
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    Originally posted by bug77 View Post

    The thing is, the open source world is just a part of of the real world we live in. Probably the better part of the software world, but still, just a part.
    Also, cancer? Really? I've been using nvidia's blob for 10 years or so and it hasn't spread to any other parts of the system yet.
    If more people would have boycott nvidia for the last decade we would have an even more health AMD/Intel open source ecosystem. And who knows maybe even Matrox or so would still be in the game (very open source friendly driver a very long time ago, ...)

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  • chithanh
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    bug77 About the cancer thing: I don't know if you are old enough to remember this, but NVidia tried to spread proprietary drivers beyond just GPUs. The forcedeth driver for the Ethernet function of nforce chipsets was written as a free replacement for NVidia's proprietary network driver. NVidia soon lost interest in the blob.

    The you have the situation with projects like Wine which are traditionally very much aligned with the NVidia graphics driver, sometimes to the exclusion of open source drivers (the rejection of gallium-nine patches comes to mind).

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  • bug77
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    Originally posted by rene View Post

    I will never use binary only blob crap. New kernel, xorg, etc? Wait for their binary only update. Want to do GPU driver and architecture research and development? Out of luck. Want to run on PowerPC, UltraSPARC or ARM64? Good luck either.

    Binary only driver are cancer in the open source world.

    I'm thankful to all the nouveau developers for being able to use 3D acceleration on my G5:
    http://t2-project.org/hardware/workstation/Apple/G5/

    Everyone who wants binary only blobs can go back to windows.
    The thing is, the open source world is just a part of of the real world we live in. Probably the better part of the software world, but still, just a part.
    Also, cancer? Really? I've been using nvidia's blob for 10 years or so and it hasn't spread to any other parts of the system yet.

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  • bridgman
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    Originally posted by darkcoder View Post
    Huhhhh? Last time I checked third party video cards relied on an X86 family CPU!
    The ATI/AMD open source drivers are used with a number of different CPU architectures - PowerPC, MIPS, ARM among others. Sounds like it's the same for Nouveau... might even be true for Intel but it would be hard to scrape the iGPU off the x86 die to find out

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  • magika
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    Originally posted by andre30correia View Post


    you buy a 980 to run with open drivers? what wast of money
    How in the world you've come to such conclusion? I'm fine with Ivybridge graphics when it comes to linux, but it's annoying to replug monitors each time I want to boot Windows to play them couple of games. Now that there is 3D with nouveau, I can use wayland, thats it.

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  • darkcoder
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    Originally posted by rene View Post

    I will never use binary only blob crap. New kernel, xorg, etc? Wait for their binary only update. Want to do GPU driver and architecture research and development? Out of luck. Want to run on PowerPC, UltraSPARC or ARM64? Good luck either.

    Binary only driver are cancer in the open source world.

    I'm thankful to all the nouveau developers for being able to use 3D acceleration on my G5:
    http://t2-project.org/hardware/workstation/Apple/G5/

    Everyone who wants binary only blobs can go back to windows.
    Huhhhh?


    Last time I checked third party video cards relied on an X86 family CPU!

    And kernel/xorg releases.. Yes that's a pain, sometimes to wait for support to be added. But those drivers are intended for already released distributions which BTW have a release and software version lock policy... Only bug fixing. If you use rolling distributions things may break by being first, and they (the rolling distros) already warn you about that.

    But if someone like Ubuntu releases a new kernel package to fix a vulnerability, and leave the binary blobs out, then blame that distribution update policy. They should recompile any kernel dependant package and release the whole combo at the same time... Not a day or two later.

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