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  • pal666
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    Originally posted by scottishduck View Post
    Ah yes, for all those fully functional wayland desktops we have right now
    fedora uses wayland login screen. fully functional, right now and for half year already

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  • scottishduck
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    Originally posted by pal666 View Post
    and what works with wayland lol?
    Ah yes, for all those fully functional wayland desktops we have right now

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  • pal666
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    Originally posted by siavashserver

    Sane user will spend money on what works best for them, not playing politics
    and what works with wayland lol?

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  • justmy2cents
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    Originally posted by imirkin View Post

    Harsh? Yes. Wrong? A matter of opinion, I suppose. A large fraction of the complaints here are of the form "I picked a distro I don't know how to operate, and I'm going to blame your unrelated project for it". If you want to use $distro, be my guest -- I'm a big fan of people using whatever it is that makes them the most efficient. But don't come to me when you can't figure out how to get it to work.
    yes, it is wrong. because you're just relaying same point you don't like to another project (distro) when it is clear case of PEBKAC and not understanding rules on which distro is built

    as far as your sentiment about complaints being wrongly targeted, i couldn't agree more with it. it is not nouveau fault and neither is distro, but one has to guess that statements like that suck as much for distro builders as they do for you

    if user would buy gun and shoot him self in the foot because he didn't RTFM. it is not fault of gun as well as it is not fault of shop that sold him. he'd probably do the same stupidity if he bought different gun in different shop. off course some shop might sell gun that would be equipped with some prevention of that kind of stupidity and if user chose that one in the first place, bullet>foot would never happen, which simply states users choice was poor for his mentality and expectations.
    Last edited by justmy2cents; 14 October 2015, 01:38 PM.

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  • imirkin
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    Originally posted by justmy2cents View Post

    ok, that was really of harsh and wrong at the same time.

    if user picks wrong distro for how he wants things to work, it is not distro that is retarded.... some of us like fedora exactly because it is what it is and take it with grain of salt for what it is knowing where benefits are. those strict policies that make some things harder are there for a reason
    Harsh? Yes. Wrong? A matter of opinion, I suppose. A large fraction of the complaints here are of the form "I picked a distro I don't know how to operate, and I'm going to blame your unrelated project for it". If you want to use $distro, be my guest -- I'm a big fan of people using whatever it is that makes them the most efficient. But don't come to me when you can't figure out how to get it to work.

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  • RussianNeuroMancer
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    Just like amdgpu.

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  • oibaf
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    It could be nice for both nouveau and nvidia if they'll have a single kernel driver used by both projects.

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  • justmy2cents
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    Originally posted by imirkin View Post

    So use a less retarded distro? One that works OOTB? Or mention it to your preferred distro maintainers? This is a packaging/distribution issue.
    ok, that was really of harsh and wrong at the same time.

    if user picks wrong distro for how he wants things to work, it is not distro that is retarded.... some of us like fedora exactly because it is what it is and take it with grain of salt for what it is knowing where benefits are. those strict policies that make some things harder are there for a reason
    Last edited by justmy2cents; 14 October 2015, 05:48 AM.

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  • karolherbst
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    jaxxed try DRI 3 offloading? then you don't need to play around with stupid xrandr anymore (but I don't know if that even works, should though).

    anyway, crashes with the mux can be debugged and shouldn't be a problem.

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  • jaxxed
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    Originally posted by Gusar View Post
    Nouveau has proper Optimus support, does it not? Bumblebee is only necessary for the proprietary driver. And there the solution is libglvnd, there's been discussion about it recently at the mesa mailing list.
    nouveau works with prime, so there is some level of support. I used to almost be able to get optimus to work, but my msi has a crap MUX that crashed x on xrandr.
    Now that I'm using the wayland gnome, I have no idea what tools to use to see if I can make my 765m actually doing anything. I guess I can try steam with prime.

    anyway, trying to say that it seems more complicated than "solving optimus". having Intel and Nvidia being in separate rooms seems to make it more complex.

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