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  • phoronix
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    NVIDIA To Publicly Release Some Documentation

    Phoronix: NVIDIA To Publicly Release Some Documentation

    NVIDIA will be releasing 2D (and potentially 3D) documentation concerning their ARM Tegra graphics core. "NVIDIA committed to open-source" even read one slide during a presentation at the annual X.Org Developers' Conference...

    http://www.phoronix.com/vr.php?view=MTE5MDk

  • uid313
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    It's getting chilly in hell

    I would like to see hardware documentation for GeForce though.

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  • Ex-Cyber
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    Originally posted by TheBlackCat View Post
    IANAL, but it seems pretty clear after the oracle case that nobody can own an interface. That may change if oracle gets its way, but currently interfaces are not protected by intellectual property law.
    Interfaces can still, in principle, be patented. However, the Oracle ruling is arguably the last nail in the coffin of the idea that API/ABIs can be copyrighted under US law. Frankly I'm still kind of floored that anyone thought Oracle even had a chance on that claim. 17 USC 102(b) and Lotus v. Borland were pretty big hints.

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  • DeepDayze
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    Originally posted by Gusar View Post
    This assumes such documentation exists and could quickly be released. I very much doubt that's the case. Which means they'd first need to go assembling various internal documents, sanitize them and then shape them into a form that can be released. Too much effort for EOL hardware, I don't see any incentive to do it.
    True, as all they need to do with such old documentation is to get it cleared by their legal department first, much in the same fashion AMD did with their docs. At minimum they should release the interface and programming docs (minus any 3rd party info)

    However they should be able to release docs for their not quite so old cards (eg, GeForce 5,6,7)

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  • TheBlackCat
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    Originally posted by Naib View Post
    depends on whether they got someone to initially write the interface and they don't actually own the ipr.
    IANAL, but it seems pretty clear after the oracle case that nobody can own an interface. That may change if oracle gets its way, but currently interfaces are not protected by intellectual property law.

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  • Gusar
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    Originally posted by DeepDayze View Post
    I concur with the poster above that nVidia should release documentation for their older cards that are at end of life so that we as a community can support ourselves by having an open driver so we can continue to use these cards
    This assumes such documentation exists and could quickly be released. I very much doubt that's the case. Which means they'd first need to go assembling various internal documents, sanitize them and then shape them into a form that can be released. Too much effort for EOL hardware, I don't see any incentive to do it.

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  • Naib
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    Originally posted by TheBlackCat View Post
    I can understand having IP restrictions on the implementation, but not for the interface. I thought that was settled in oracle vs. google.
    depends on whether they got someone to initially write the interface and they don't actually own the ipr.

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  • TheBlackCat
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    Originally posted by DeepDayze View Post
    It's possible they cannot release docs for their desktop card ASICS due to 3rd party IP restrictions. If they can bring the design work inhouse and use as little 3rd party IP as possible then they could be able to open up documentation for the 3d parts.
    I can understand having IP restrictions on the implementation, but not for the interface. I thought that was settled in oracle vs. google.

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  • Dami55an
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    I was like "WOW desktop cards" but then i realized it was for tegra.

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  • DeepDayze
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    Originally posted by boast View Post
    especially the firmware technology from their Quadro series, since hopefully that would still work for todays cards
    Maybe a utility to do the firmware dumps for just about any nvidia card would be great to have so that we can use the firmware with nouveau, and if nvidia can provide some documentation about the entry points and such do the nouveau devs can implement features

    Originally posted by Ex-Cyber View Post
    They've made noises about integrating ARM on the desktop side too, which makes me wonder whether they might move the low-level stuff into an embedded firmware blob and document a higher-level host interface. Of course, the cynical side of me says that they'd then wrap that firmware in encryption/DRM and sell feature unlock codes a la carte (SLI? $25. Overclocking? $50. Autodesk-certified mode? $500. Full double precision compute performance? $1500.).
    lol wouldn't be surprised at that

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