What Will Happen To xf86-video-nv In 2010?

[King InuYasha]

So its just flash acceleration you want, I don't think flash supports vaapi or vdpau yet. Flash accel is done via GL, GL support is something we are working on. Again I'm sure lots of ppl want to believe they are using vdpau to watch legal content, but I'm guessing they are ripping shit left right and center. But again I've got a distro that can't ship anything to decode closed formats, so its just not worth the effort until that problem is resolved in some useful way.

We may start putting time into Theora decoding on GPU hw at some point.

Btw I'm sure if all the ppl who have real use cases for this stuff cared enough, at least one volunteer community developer would have shown up to do it, but I'm guessing they are too busy watching rips of 30 Rock or something to bother.

Dave.

Or maybe because of attitudes like that they see no point in doing anything. And ripping content itself isn't illegal. It's breaking the DRM in the process that is illegal. It is quite easy to preserve the DRM when ripping it.

Also, perhaps I record TV shows from my TV Tuner, again, VDPAU/VA-API support would still be useful.

The fact you are assuming illegal usage of such features is horrible and quite frankly, hogwash.

Your attitudes regarding this whole thing make it seem like nobody on the developer side sees a legal value to it. I guess this really exemplifies the industrial/corporate focus that most Linux development has. I remember a few years ago there was a guy that focused entirely on making patches that made Linux work better on the desktop.

I don't know what happened to those patches today, but I do know that at the time, they were scoffed at because nearly everybody focused entirely on the server platforms. So what if Linux can scale to innumerable CPUs? Linux seems to suck at handling audio right now, and there is horrible OpenGL performance. And that guy doesn't work on the kernel anymore.

We're only now addressing these issues. Developers shooting down the validity of VDPAU/VA-API, you suck right now.

GRRR *growls and grabs hair*

This IS RIDICULOUS...

[Kano]

Btw. using tools like video download helper you can get lots of flv/mp4 container with h264 with ease...

[V!NCENT]

So what if Linux can scale to innumerable CPUs? Linux seems to suck at handling audio right now, and there is horrible OpenGL performance. And that guy doesn't work on the kernel anymore.

We're only now addressing these issues. Developers shooting down the validity of VDPAU/VA-API, you suck right now.

Did nobody learn anything from Microsoft's success? People tend to use at home that which they use at work. Oh well...

[deanjo]

If you don't understand sarcasm dude I can't help you.

You honestly think my goal with that mail is to get source from nvidia?

Dave.

If you can't be a professional in your field I can't help you either. A real professional would not have even said something so juvenile knowing the person they were speaking too couldn't change policy. You asked for proof, I provided it in spades. Grow up Dave, show some maturity and professionalism and maybe you will get some credibility associated with your name again but it will take a long time given your past antics.

[deanjo]

So people watch ripped shit... who cares? It's everyday life.

Dave is pulling the company bullshit line that is quoted on the basis that the USA is the center of the universe and the DMCA covers it all despite the fact that it isn't the center of the universe and it only applies in a anal retentive country (politics wise) that couldn't see the sunshine if they dig 6 feet to get their heads out of their ass.

They are almost as bad as Toronto residents in that respect.

[King InuYasha]

Did nobody learn anything from Microsoft's success? People tend to use at home that which they use at work. Oh well...

People almost never actually USE servers, so WHAT GOOD is it?

[bridgman]

Dave is pulling the company bullshit line that is quoted on the basis that the USA is the center of the universe and the DMCA covers it all despite the fact that it isn't the center of the universe and it only applies in a anal retentive country (politics wise) that couldn't see the sunshine if they dig 6 feet to get their heads out of their ass.

They are almost as bad as Toronto residents in that respect.

Geez, I'm glad I don't live in Toronto.

[deanjo]

Core 2 Duo laptops are not meant to be used on your lap

They are more like portale desktops.

I've always said that if I'd buy a laptop with a size larger than a netbook would buy a MacBook and install Linux on it. MacBooks are real laptops.

I mean... what good is a laptop of you can't place it on top of your lap? All laptops out there today have ventilation holes in the bottom. MacBooks are the only laptops out there that have the ventilation holes on the top.

Actually Apple hasn't made a laptop (including the Macbook). They are called portables, and for good reason as well. Read the manual and you will see that it clearly stipulates during usage to place on a flat surface.

Using Your MacBook
When you’re using your MacBook or charging the battery, it's normal for the bottom of the case to get warm. For prolonged use, place your MacBook on a flat, stable surface. Do not place your MacBook on your lap or other body surface for extended periods of time. Prolonged body contact can cause discomfort and potentially a burn. The bottom of the MacBook case functions as a cooling surface that transfers heat from inside the computer to the cooler air outside. The bottom of the case is raised slightly to allow airflow, which keeps the unit within normal operating temperatures. In addition, warm air is vented from the slots in the back of the case.

http://www.apple.com/support/macbook/care/

[deanjo]

Geez, I'm glad I don't live in Toronto.

Lol, Markham boy.

[airlied]

Or maybe because of attitudes like that they see no point in doing anything. And ripping content itself isn't illegal. It's breaking the DRM in the process that is illegal. It is quite easy to preserve the DRM when ripping it.

Also, perhaps I record TV shows from my TV Tuner, again, VDPAU/VA-API support would still be useful.

The fact you are assuming illegal usage of such features is horrible and quite frankly, hogwash.

Your attitudes regarding this whole thing make it seem like nobody on the developer side sees a legal value to it. I guess this really exemplifies the industrial/corporate focus that most Linux development has. I remember a few years ago there was a guy that focused entirely on making patches that made Linux work better on the desktop.

I don't know what happened to those patches today, but I do know that at the time, they were scoffed at because nearly everybody focused entirely on the server platforms. So what if Linux can scale to innumerable CPUs? Linux seems to suck at handling audio right now, and there is horrible OpenGL performance. And that guy doesn't work on the kernel anymore.

We're only now addressing these issues. Developers shooting down the validity of VDPAU/VA-API, you suck right now.

GRRR *growls and grabs hair*

This IS RIDICULOUS...

Look my point is if the community felt this was as important as all the ppl in the community who demand we work on it, one person who is capable of this stuff and can work on it outside of a patent minefield that is company development would have shown up and implemented it already.

r300->r500 movie decoding is all done with shaders, the code is all available it just needs someome to take some time to plug it in and write it, this hasn't happened. Its been possible for over a year.

You seriously think if someone wrote patches to add tearfree movie decoding to radeon we'd reject them?

All my posts are from my POV, RH don't need this for any customers,
due to use not being able to ship codecs for anything we can accel so I've no reason to work on it. Patents aren't something you can ignore when you work in companies, anyone who thinks they are is just stupid and i invite them to start a company and ignore them.

Dave.