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  • kurkosdr
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    Originally posted by Weasel View Post
    Nobody cares about your pathetic casual usage of your "desktop" like a mobile r either..
    I also mentioned MacOS X, but whatever. Learn how not to be a rude arsehat and you might be taken seriously.

    Let me remind you that you are the one who replied with a rude and aggressive comment first.

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  • Weasel
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    Originally posted by kurkosdr View Post
    Nobody cares about your hotkeys/macros that need absolute window positions,
    Nobody cares about your pathetic casual usage of your "desktop" like a mobile r either.

    Originally posted by kurkosdr View Post
    So, keep ranting.
    Keep crying about Nvidia.

    Nobody cares.

    Especially not their bottom line.

    Cope harder.

    Also funny that you say I'm rating when I literally said it works perfectly fine for me. YOU are the one complaining. So keep bitching and suffering because of Crapland.

    Just get a fucking phone and get off desktops.

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  • Rovano
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    Originally posted by avis View Post

    Yeah, NVIDIA had proper excellent Linux support before AMD/Intel even thought about it. Linux newcomers don't know history at all.
    Yes. It's sad that people today don't even know how to verify information and work with it. And they just blindly mistake some half-witted trendy things.
    My ATI remembers.


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  • avis
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    Originally posted by sophisticles View Post

    Sorry but you do not need to use Windows to get full and proper support and use of Nvidia hardware, I have been using Nvidia hardware with full acceleration on Linux for at least 2 decades, going all the way back to the days of the TNT2 I used to use with Red Hat + Ximian Gnome.

    Of course, I don't have a mental illness that compels me to only use open source drivers.
    Yeah, NVIDIA had proper excellent Linux support before AMD/Intel even thought about it. Linux newcomers don't know history at all.

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  • NeoMorpheus
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    Originally posted by sophisticles View Post

    Sorry but you do not need to use Windows to get full and proper support and use of Nvidia hardware, I have been using Nvidia hardware with full acceleration on Linux for at least 2 decades, going all the way back to the days of the TNT2 I used to use with Red Hat + Ximian Gnome.

    Of course, I don't have a mental illness that compels me to only use open source drivers.
    I remember being forced to use Korora Linux because I couldn’t get the damn ngreedia drivers working with anything else.

    oh and funny you decide to insult us that wants proper open source drivers in open source OS.

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  • sophisticles
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    Originally posted by NeoMorpheus View Post
    And forgot to add, enjoy being forced to use Windows, if you really want all that proper support from ngreedia.
    Sorry but you do not need to use Windows to get full and proper support and use of Nvidia hardware, I have been using Nvidia hardware with full acceleration on Linux for at least 2 decades, going all the way back to the days of the TNT2 I used to use with Red Hat + Ximian Gnome.

    Of course, I don't have a mental illness that compels me to only use open source drivers.

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  • Sonadow
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    Originally posted by frytaped View Post
    RH seems to be really enthusiastic about nouveau...
    https://queer.party/@Lyude/111089178374415532
    Read the discussion thread again.

    AMD and Intel simply refuse to make changes to any subsystem that will allow for Rust DRM drivers to be written and AMD outright NAKs all of Lina's patches to the point Lina just gave up trying.

    Good luck waiting for Rust DRM drivers to amdgpu, i915 and Xe.

    Meanwhile I'll use my Win 11 machine for real work where I don't have to worry about Wayland vs X11 or driver subsystem bickering. Wayland's migration is way too fucking overdue and still nobody wants to get their shit in order. Hell, the distribution I currently use has a Plasma 5.27.4 implementation that completely breaks xdg-portal. Which makes screen sharing utterly impossible on Firefox because FF exclusively uses xdg-portal on Wayland for this. Fucked up my web meeting big time.

    At least with Chromium-based browsers it's still possible to share browser tabs without the use of xdg-portal or pipewire.

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  • NeoMorpheus
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    Originally posted by sophisticles View Post

    i don't know if they care about open source but I do know that they do not care about having their cards be all they can be.

    Many people either don't know, or don't remember, but Nvidia tried to enter the x86 CPU market years ago. Nvidia used to make x86 chip sets and they felt that the x86 license they had allowed them to make CPU's, Intel disagreed and refused to allow Nvidia to make x86 CPU's.

    Nvidia sued Intel and Intel ended up settling the suit for 1.5 billion dollars payable over 5 years.

    Nvidia took that money and created GPGPU with CUDA and has made a fortune in the HPC and video production markets.

    AMD bought ATI with the intent to compete against Nvidia in those markets but then AMD secured the rights to that superior manufacturing process, that allowed them to pack more cores and more execution units on smaller dies and lower power levels than Intel and AMD has fully embraced the "more cores" approach to CPU design.

    This leaves AMD in an interesting quandary, in order for AMD GPU's to compete against Nvidia GPU's in HPC, they would have to effectively compete against their own high core count Threadripper and EPYC processors that are also competing against Nvidia GPU's. Basically, AMD would be cannibalizing their very lucrative and profitable CPU market by releasing GPU's that can compete against Nvidia's offerings.

    Because of this AMD does not really care about their GPU's being used in HPC and video production and it shows. So you get a pretty good open source driver from them and they also have a proprietary driver for workstation workloads.

    So you can go on all you want about AMD and open source but the reality is that for many workloads, an Nvidia card with closed source drivers is a much better buy, from an initial cost, total cost of ownership and performance standpoint.
    Good info, thanks.

    Even though I dont believe that everything in there is accurate.

    That said, your last part paints the same broad blanket that is addressed by my comment.

    Some people are still locked into CUDA, but even that is changing. The rest is rapidly becoming irrelevant.

    And forgot to add, enjoy being forced to use Windows, if you really want all that proper support from ngreedia.

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  • kurkosdr
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    Originally posted by Weasel View Post
    Something that can't even query absolute window positions for your hotkeys/macros can't be the future of anything, except of masochists.

    So, keep suffering.
    Nobody cares about your hotkeys/macros that need absolute window positions, Wayland is about making Desktop Linux have a feel more like the one found in MacOS X or Android, so it's more appealing to the average user.

    So, keep ranting.

    Nobody cares.

    X is dead, deal with it.

    ​​​

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  • sophisticles
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    Originally posted by NeoMorpheus View Post

    Maybe they have the same fanatics that we have here, kissing Dear Leader Jensen's ass, instead of giving him the middle finger and buying AMD, which does care for open source.
    i don't know if they care about open source but I do know that they do not care about having their cards be all they can be.

    Many people either don't know, or don't remember, but Nvidia tried to enter the x86 CPU market years ago. Nvidia used to make x86 chip sets and they felt that the x86 license they had allowed them to make CPU's, Intel disagreed and refused to allow Nvidia to make x86 CPU's.

    Nvidia sued Intel and Intel ended up settling the suit for 1.5 billion dollars payable over 5 years.

    Nvidia took that money and created GPGPU with CUDA and has made a fortune in the HPC and video production markets.

    AMD bought ATI with the intent to compete against Nvidia in those markets but then AMD secured the rights to that superior manufacturing process, that allowed them to pack more cores and more execution units on smaller dies and lower power levels than Intel and AMD has fully embraced the "more cores" approach to CPU design.

    This leaves AMD in an interesting quandary, in order for AMD GPU's to compete against Nvidia GPU's in HPC, they would have to effectively compete against their own high core count Threadripper and EPYC processors that are also competing against Nvidia GPU's. Basically, AMD would be cannibalizing their very lucrative and profitable CPU market by releasing GPU's that can compete against Nvidia's offerings.

    Because of this AMD does not really care about their GPU's being used in HPC and video production and it shows. So you get a pretty good open source driver from them and they also have a proprietary driver for workstation workloads.

    So you can go on all you want about AMD and open source but the reality is that for many workloads, an Nvidia card with closed source drivers is a much better buy, from an initial cost, total cost of ownership and performance standpoint.

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