Nouveau Kernel Driver Patches Begin Preparing For "NVK" Open-Source Vulkan Support

[bridgman]

there is a lot of lockdown in the firmware that AMD would lock down in hardware. things like sriov or whatever nvidia calls it and other compute features that would be locked down. now get punted to the firmware

I don't know about NVidia, but on AMD products those features are locked down with fuses directly connected to logic gates, not firmware.

AFAIK the only thing we hid in firmware was part of the UVD/VCN initialization sequence (along with some HW changes) so that we could provide open source video drivers without putting closed source DRM at risk.

If you are saying that AMD locks down in hardware while other companies lock down in firmware that could very well be correct, I don't know. We have also locked things down in firmware in the past but I don't think we have done that for quite a few years now.

[Quackdoc]

it is potentially franken-firmware.

Great that it exists and can be used by an open kernel driver, but - and this is without seeing the code - it seems like they stuffed the whole kernel driver into the firmware instead of having it as a thin layer.

Now, it could be that the hardware is that buggy, or it could be something else, but many people have raised eyebrows at the size of the GSP.

there is a lot of lockdown in the firmware that AMD would lock down in hardware. things like sriov or whatever nvidia calls it and other compute features that would be locked down. now get punted to the firmware

[kylew77]

Maybe this will cause Nouveau to finally get ported to OpenBSD. It has already been ported to NetBSD. It would be great to be able to run OpenBSD on Nvidia hardware that isn't ancient enough to use the NV driver. Right now I have to recommend everyone who wants a *BSD FreeBSD over OpenBSD if they have Nvidia because with Nvidia in Open you just get vesa graphics.

[You-]

Can you tell me as well because I'd also like to stop using nvidia's proprietary driver.

it is potentially franken-firmware.

Great that it exists and can be used by an open kernel driver, but - and this is without seeing the code - it seems like they stuffed the whole kernel driver into the firmware instead of having it as a thin layer.

Now, it could be that the hardware is that buggy, or it could be something else, but many people have raised eyebrows at the size of the GSP.

[Venemo]

The irony is to believe that AMD/Intel open source drivers work perfectly. It's so far from the truth it's actually laughable.

Does the NVidia driver have a public bug tracker that we can compare to the above links?

[Awesomeness]

The irony is to believe that AMD/Intel open source drivers work perfectly.

Work better than Nouveau which is what this story is about.

[marlock]

someone: AMD and Intel opensource drivers are currently better on linux than Nvidia closed source

feathered person: AMD is not perfect, ergo Nvidia is better, gotcha! also it's linux's fault not Nvidia's that Nvidia driver on linux is bad

someone: facepalm


also feathered person probably meant OpenCL not OpenGL a couple posts above...


to feathered person:
i'm not gonna claim people who praise AMD drivers are 100% unbiased 100% of the time... but you should get off that high horse if you think you are remotely unbiased in your recurring discourse

less complaining, more pondering and info contribution, please!

also there is a bunch of folks here using debate club tactics that are mostly toxic, you included

[dekernel]

Hey Birdie, worst take of yours since a while. Breaking News: Software has Bugs, People in Chaos.

Wow, I think you are correct in saying that avis is birdie. His subsequent posts here sure sound just like him.

[dlq84]

The irony is to believe that AMD/Intel open source drivers work perfectly. It's so far from the truth it's actually laughable.

Have you ever done software development? Also, how many issues do you think Nvidia have in their internal issue tracker? And lastly, are you for real?

[RejectModernity]

The irony is to believe that AMD/Intel open source drivers work perfectly. It's so far from the truth it's actually laughable.

This post gave me cancer. How do you even wipe your butt?