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Open-Source NVIDIA Vulkan Driver "NVK" Begins Running Talos Principle... Slowly
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Originally posted by dimko View Post
Arm... Not sure if this is anyhow related to Nouveau. Mesa stuff + Recently opened drivers by Nvidia are separate things. If i understand, Nouveau has nothing to do with new OS driver nvidia is slowly releasing. VERY slowly. I may be wrong though.
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Nothing to be excited about. The history of opensource AMD drivers clearly demonstrated that community can't develop GPU driver. 8 years of development weren't enough to create a decent opengl implementation for AMD VLIW architecture. GPU generations life is too short, it becomes obsolete before obtaining fully functional drivers. Only after Valve had started to fund this development linux have got good amd driver relatively in time (for example it took 2 years to implement RT support). So it is time to ask who will develop nouveau/nvk or fund this job? Nvidia? They don't need this, they are supporting linux themselves. Valve? They don't need this too, as long as there is good vulkan implementation from nvidia. FOSS zealots? They don't have enough money + they hate nvidia and nvidia customers.
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Originally posted by Khrundel View PostNothing to be excited about. The history of opensource AMD drivers clearly demonstrated that community can't develop GPU driver. 8 years of development weren't enough to create a decent opengl implementation for AMD VLIW architecture. GPU generations life is too short, it becomes obsolete before obtaining fully functional drivers. Only after Valve had started to fund this development linux have got good amd driver relatively in time (for example it took 2 years to implement RT support). So it is time to ask who will develop nouveau/nvk or fund this job? Nvidia? They don't need this, they are supporting linux themselves. Valve? They don't need this too, as long as there is good vulkan implementation from nvidia. FOSS zealots? They don't have enough money + they hate nvidia and nvidia customers.
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Originally posted by Alexmitter View Post
No you are wrong. Nvidia released a FLOSS kernel module for their driver with the explicit note that "it can be used as a example for Nouveau". And this is exactly what Nouveau does right now, integrate the magic from Nvidias released kernel module into its tree.
They provided much more than just what is bare minimum for noveau.(fuck the guy who came up with this name, i refuse to spell it correctly)
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Originally posted by Aron View Post
Mistake? The gtx 1650 also has one.
Both based on the Turing architecture. Maybe it would been more accurate to say that the DSP is found in Turing generation cards and newer, but it might also have been more confusing for some since Turing is not the name that's on the box so to speak.
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Originally posted by dimko View PostThey provided much more than just what is bare minimum for noveau.(fuck the guy who came up with this name, i refuse to spell it correctly)Last edited by bridgman; 12 January 2023, 04:15 PM.Test signature
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Originally posted by sarmad View Post
With Vulkan at least, yes. I think the OpenGL side still needs other optimizations on top of reclocking. I am assuming optimizing a Vulkan driver is simpler than optimizing an OpenGL driver since Vulkan is lower level, but this is coming from someone who hasn't worked with either of the two APIs, so take my assumption with a grain of salt until, hopefully, someone more knowledgable in this thread approve or disapprove it.
IIRC Khronos.org and Zync talks about future hardware support corroborate your idea that a lower-level API like Vulkan is indeed easier to implement than OpenGL
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Originally posted by bridgman View Post
If you were a French-speaking university student living in Paris and working on a new open source driver for NV hardware then calling it NouVeau ("new" in French) would seem like a pretty good idea, and the open source community seems to agree.
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Originally posted by dimko View PostOpen Source community doesn't care enough to rename it ;D
I would wager only people who only speak english would have an issue with it, and even then only very few people.
Also only very few names are actually bad... that's only an issue if it's grossly misleading, deeply offensive or conflicts with some other namespace
It's also a lot of work changing names all over the codebase, graphic assets, documentation, etc... and more importantly, even once that's done any 3rd-party references to your software (especially blog posts, news, forum discussions, stackexchange and whatnot will forever be split with old content pointing towards the previous name, harming discovery
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