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Originally posted by Murple View Post
Why do people keep bringing up AMD and Intel? AMD I don't use so not really interested in (personally) and Intel are *of course* worse with their "management engines".
My point is that we shouldn't be celebrating companies moving more code into firmware and yet pretending they are becoming more open. They are not. They are becoming more closed.
You are right though, I am an open source zealot.
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Originally posted by birdie View Post
Start with law. Start with DMCA. OK? Then "hate", OK? The silicon companies don't act like this because they are "evil", they act because the media industry and the law make them so.
But do I need to highlight the number of people getting their feathers ruffled about people hating on companies while they clearly have no problems with personal insults? It seems backwards to me, I won't lose any sleep about Nvidia's hurt feelings but I would be uncomfortable being mean to individual people. I don't really care if people want to insult me on the internet, I just find the dichotomy interesting.
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Well... This is one of those times where I was wrong, but I'm glad to be so.
Guess I don't have to feel bad about buying an RTX 3090 last summer at all."Why should I want to make anything up? Life's bad enough as it is without wanting to invent any more of it."
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Originally posted by birdie View Post
Start with law. Start with DMCA. OK? Then "hate", OK? The silicon companies don't act like this because they are "evil", they act because the media industry and the law make them so.
I think it's a combination of control freakiness by vendors and apathy/ignorance by consumers. Just don't buy/hire or consume DRMd media (not even watch illegal copies, that increases mindshare and market appeal). Produce and share free content or entertain yourself otherwise. I mean in other centuries we took the Bastille. Now we just can't be bothered to be bored without a film instead of being bored with a film.
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Originally posted by berolinux View Post
Late in doing what EVERY SINGLE ONE of their competitors did a couple of years earlier.
On the other hand Open Source zealots most of whom have done nil for Open Source other than leaving hateful comments still say "F you NVIDIA or F you less NVIDIA" in this discussion.
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Originally posted by phoron View PostI'm not sure that's not an excuse. You could just have a switch to activate firmware signature validation and DRM or run a free firmware version and have the card not decipher DRM media. (Some?) Chromebooks did something similar with verified boot.
I think it's a combination of control freakiness by vendors and apathy/ignorance by consumers. Just don't buy/hire or consume DRMd media (not even watch illegal copies, that increases mindshare and market appeal). Produce and share free content or entertain yourself otherwise. I mean in other centuries we took the Bastille. Now we just can't be bothered to be bored without a film instead of being bored with a film.
I'll gladly use open source firmware because I've played DRM content on all the PCs I've ever had exactly zero times for my entire life.
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Originally posted by birdie View Post
Kinda sums up Open Source/Linux zealots' attitude: WE CAN HATE, WE HATE, WE WILL HATE.
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Originally posted by tildearrow View Post
I wonder whether AMD has been doing this as well...
The last time I read about something like that was Realtek, could be rtl8811 but my memory is failing me. Later we saw AMD Display Core code being rejected multiple times. IIRC Realtek did nothing about it and their users needed to build the drivers manually. AMD rewrote the drivers a few times which took a really long.
I don't know if Nvidia plans to merge this since they just left it on Github.
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