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  • #21
    Originally posted by torsionbar28 View Post

    This news from AMD is fantastic and pure goodness. What do you gain from dropping a turd into the punchbowl?
    I spot something questionable on that page, because AFAIK Free/LIbre is something against blobs in opensource drivers, these firmwares... that is all, libre people uses linux-libre kernel and there this driver is deblobed and practicaly unusable, so saying yes under Free/Libre there does not sound right to me

    A modern x86 PC, both intel and AMD, has binary blobs in the CPU, in the motherboard, in the add-in cards for sound, RAID, etc. That's not the point here. Having a 100% open source driver stack for a tier-1 GPU is truly a milestone in Open Source history. Don't play the turd delivery boy - This is a historic event, in case that hasn't sunk in for you yet, not to mention the announcement's comment about AMD continuing working towards open sourcing the blobs. Intel isn't doing this, and neither is NVidia. AMD is to be commended for pursuing an aggressively open-source friendly strategy.
    Did i comment on article at all, i quoted link from another mentioned webpage and commented on that
    Last edited by dungeon; 05-13-2017, 07:08 AM.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Spazturtle View Post
      1) Firmware isn't part of the driver
      2) Would you rather the firmware was on a read-only chip on the GPU?
      1) Driver is useless without firmware, so it effectively is.
      2) yes. At that point it becomes hardware.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Serafean View Post
        1) Driver is useless without firmware, so it effectively is.
        2) yes. At that point it becomes hardware.
        2 was a wrong question, the actual question is "do you think reflashing the GPU chips every now and then when they update the blobs or face breakage is acceptable for the world at large".
        Because that's one of the reason why most devices have firmwares loaded at runtime.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by Spazturtle View Post
          1) Firmware isn't part of the driver.
          If it is not, why you use it? Why not remove it?

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          • #25
            Originally posted by dungeon View Post

            If it is not, why you use it? Why not remove it?
            Because the device needs it to work, and having it loaded at runtime is better then having it stored on a chip on the device.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Spazturtle View Post

              Because the device needs it to work, and having it loaded at runtime is better then having it stored on a chip on the device.
              I understand practicality, that is Windows and MacOS also... but to be Free/Libre friendly that means any kind of blob software isn't there.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by dungeon View Post

                I understand practicality, that is Windows and MacOS also... but to be Free/Libre friendly that means any kind of blob software isn't there.
                So would rather it be stored on a chip where you still can't see the code and it doesn't get updated so you are stuck with the bugs.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Spazturtle View Post

                  So would rather it be stored on a chip where you still can't see the code and it doesn't get updated so you are stuck with the bugs.
                  It is not question about me and not about practicality, but about Free/Libre mentioned there driver to be "friendly" which is not true.

                  Column shoud say there "No (blob firmware required)" instead of "Yes" Even just that would be much more Free/Libre friendly, than stating something incorrectly
                  Last edited by dungeon; 05-13-2017, 08:54 AM.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by dungeon View Post

                    It is not question about me and not about practicality, but about Free/Libre mentioned there driver to be "friendly" which is not true.

                    Column shoud say there "No (blob firmware required)" instead of "Yes" Even just that would be much more Free/Libre friendly, than stating something incorrectly
                    How would putting the firmware on a chip be any more Free/Libre?

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Spazturtle View Post
                      How would putting the firmware on a chip be any more Free/Libre?
                      It is about respect to some group of people in this case Free/Libre, because who does not give respect to others should not expect any kind respect in return also

                      Stating something as friendly to Free/Libre, but everybody knows their stance on blob matters is already is total disrespect
                      Last edited by dungeon; 05-13-2017, 09:07 AM.

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