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RADV: A Community Open-Source Effort To Get Vulkan Working On Radeon
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It's a bit sad... I'd rather have a solution for the DAL dilemma. Adaptive Sync and even HDMI/DP audio is not usable with newer GPUs. I also expected the transition of Vulkan/OpenCL go faster so we could at least see something at this point. I considered switching Hawaii for Ellesmere b/c of efficiency, more VRAM and better software support but at this point it is 'only' good, but not good enough to justify this 'sidegrade'. Maybe have to wait and hope for Vega or just having too high expectations...
I mean, the launch was great. Way better support than before and everything. Great. But Linux users are still 2nd class customers...
Anyway, to get back to topic: thanks airlied for moving something. It is higly appreciated, even when considered useless work by some. If AMDs Vulkan driver is in a similar stage as DAL is, there is a long way to go...Last edited by juno; 19 July 2016, 10:10 PM.
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Originally posted by microcode View PostThe GPUs need to be fast enough that games are regularly CPU-bound, for it to matter. Seems reasonable to implement Vulkan on recent-gen GPUs in my mind.I also suspect it was just what was in airlied's workstation. He doesn't work for you, I don't see why he should strive so much to make his work initially useful for you.
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I'm aware of Dave's hardware situation. So, I don't really have much of an interest in pushing this further. I appreciate his efforts regardless and I don't mean to be discouraging by any means.
Assuming you're referring to me, I never stated the efforts were useless. I said they're a poor priority, because there are Vulkan compatible GPUs out there that need more attention.Last edited by schmidtbag; 19 July 2016, 11:11 PM.
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I'm glad airlied is working on this.
I look forward to buying a AMD card soon to take advantage of the open source stability benefits for Workstation & Gaming.
Keep it up dude, I can't wait to see it come downstream.
Too bad this sold out I might have jumped ship today:
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Originally posted by ElectricPrism View PostI'm glad airlied is working on this.
I look forward to buying a AMD card soon to take advantage of the open source stability benefits for Workstation & Gaming.
Keep it up dude, I can't wait to see it come downstream.
Too bad this sold out I might have jumped ship today:
http://www.overclock.net/t/1606325/n...-250-00-299-99
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Originally posted by schmidtbag View PostI agree, but you're missing the key point here - the GPUs being targeted at first already have support.Last edited by bridgman; 19 July 2016, 11:41 PM.Test signature
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Originally posted by schmidtbag View PostI agree, but you're missing the key point here - the GPUs being targeted at first already have support. I personally don't care about nouveau. When I use nvidia, I use the closed source drivers. When I use Intel, I don't play games and OpenGL is more than fast enough for my needs. I have no problem using AMDGPU-PRO either. So this isn't about me, this is about benefiting the community as a whole in the best way possible. Somehow, people think I'm the asshole here because I'm sticking up for people who don't have a Vulkan option. Not saying you specifically, just in general. And yes, I get it, Dave isn't obligated to do anything I say. I never said he was. I'm just giving a suggestion that would be of a greater impact.
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I'm aware of Dave's hardware situation. So, I don't really have much of an interest in pushing this further. I appreciate his efforts regardless and I don't mean to be discouraging by any means.
Assuming you're referring to me, I never stated the efforts were useless. I said they're a poor priority, because there are Vulkan compatible GPUs out there that need more attention.
I've got an SI (7850/Pitcairn), and I have absolutely no issues with Dave/Bas focusing on VI cards for now. The AMDGPU kernel driver will eventually probably support SI in non-experimental form, which would mean that they only have to target one winsys instead of two. Patience will probably get us cleaner code in the long-run. Would I like Vulkan support now, sure... but there aren't any games that I want to play on Linux that only support Vulkan... They all still have a GL renderer that I can use for now. We've waited for a while, a little longer won't kill us.
And for now, I'll probably be poking at what needs to be done to try to get the SI/AMDGPU experimental kernel driver going.... (once the TdF is done and I get my desktop back from streaming duties)
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