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  • RealNC
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    Originally posted by legume View Post
    I didn't try when I had my rv530 in, but vsync and aniso may be possible with driconf.

    You don't need kernel 2.6.26, you just need to build the drm modules from git against your configured kernel tree and copy them (drm.ko,radeon.ko) over to /lib/modules/2.6.X/kernel/drivers/char/drm/

    I don't know exactly what you have to install/do to get enough of a kernel tree in place for a distro as I had a full kernel tree already - LFS.
    Thanks for the tip. I went back to 2.6.25 and installed the x11-drm package from Git. Everything went automatic (Gentoo rox )

    vsync works now with OpenGL applications. But not with Compiz. I guess that's another issue entirely (AIGLX). Why on earth didn't the world go towards XGL, everything was working perfectly there :P I hope Linux folks will one day have a system where everything actually works. Before I die, that is.
    Last edited by RealNC; 28 July 2008, 10:21 PM.

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  • legume
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    Originally posted by RealNC View Post
    and it doesn't seem possible to enable either vsync nor anisotropic filtering or anti-aliasing.

    Kernel 2.6.26 (no way around it)
    I didn't try when I had my rv530 in, but vsync and aniso may be possible with driconf.

    You don't need kernel 2.6.26, you just need to build the drm modules from git against your configured kernel tree and copy them (drm.ko,radeon.ko) over to /lib/modules/2.6.X/kernel/drivers/char/drm/

    I don't know exactly what you have to install/do to get enough of a kernel tree in place for a distro as I had a full kernel tree already - LFS.

    Didn't try wine, etqw didn't work as it needs a higher OpenGL version.

    Other games were OK for me, plenty of fps on an X1600pro - tested nexuiz,et and several other ioquake3 based games.

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  • RealNC
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    Originally posted by Extreme Coder View Post
    Hmm.. Sounds good, I'm OK with 60-70% performance right now, hopefully it will improve.
    If anybody can confirm it working with Wine, I will have a go at installing it
    OK, I've just installed Wine (1.1.0) and tried to run "Soft Shadows Benchmark 1.5.4". It won't run. Error: "Your hardware does not support OpenGL 2.0".

    Notepad.exe runs fine

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  • Extreme Coder
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    Originally posted by RealNC View Post
    Well, 3D *looks* well. No screen corruption. Switching from X to a VT also seems very thorough.

    There are a few problems though. Page flipping is not available (there's a performance hit without it) and it doesn't seem possible to enable either vsync nor anisotropic filtering or anti-aliasing.


    Didn't try


    Performance is not very good. I'd say about 60% to 70% of what fglrx is able to deliver.


    On that one, at least on my system the radeon driver kicks fglrx's butt sky high. No crashes, no lockups, no screen corruption. It just works while fglrx doesn't.

    I have hopes for this driver (and radeonhd since as bridgman mentioned it also got R500 support). Even though the support is labeled "experimental", it's more stable for me than fglrx (which is labeled "mature"). Setting it up will require you to use bleeding edge versions of various components though. Kernel 2.6.26 (no way around it), X.Org 1.4.99.06, Mesa 7.1_rc3 and also latest versions of things like libdri and other stuff pulled in by an X.Org update.
    Hmm.. Sounds good, I'm OK with 60-70% performance right now, hopefully it will improve.
    If anybody can confirm it working with Wine, I will have a go at installing it

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  • RealNC
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    Originally posted by Extreme Coder View Post
    And? How good is it?
    Well, 3D *looks* well. No screen corruption. Switching from X to a VT also seems very thorough.

    There are a few problems though. Page flipping is not available (there's a performance hit without it) and it doesn't seem possible to enable either vsync nor anisotropic filtering or anti-aliasing.

    I have a few requirements to be able to use it:
    1) Be able to use Wine.
    Didn't try

    2) Decent performance in 3D, I'm not asking for the same performance as fglrx, but I'm asking for playable performance
    Performance is not very good. I'd say about 60% to 70% of what fglrx is able to deliver.

    3) Stable
    On that one, at least on my system the radeon driver kicks fglrx's butt sky high. No crashes, no lockups, no screen corruption. It just works while fglrx doesn't.

    I have hopes for this driver (and radeonhd since as bridgman mentioned it also got R500 support). Even though the support is labeled "experimental", it's more stable for me than fglrx (which is labeled "mature"). Setting it up will require you to use bleeding edge versions of various components though. Kernel 2.6.26 (no way around it), X.Org 1.4.99.06, Mesa 7.1_rc3 and also latest versions of things like libdri and other stuff pulled in by an X.Org update.

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  • Melcar
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    Originally posted by Extreme Coder View Post
    And? How good is it?
    I have a few requirements to be able to use it:
    1) Be able to use Wine.
    2) Decent performance in 3D, I'm not asking for the same performance as fglrx, but I'm asking for playable performance
    3) Stable

    1) Most likely not

    2) Every chip I have used (200M, 9600pro, 9800pro, x800gto) with radeon demonstrated a 50% performance deficit over fglrx (even more in some cases). I don't expect R5XX cards to fare any better.

    3) If the cards I have used are any indication of the overall behavior of the driver, I would say stable as a rock (definitely better than fglrx)
    Last edited by Melcar; 28 July 2008, 05:17 PM.

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  • Extreme Coder
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    Originally posted by RealNC View Post
    The radeon driver does for all R500 chips. I'm using it right now (xf86-video-ati from Git) with Compiz Fusion on an X1950XT.
    And? How good is it?
    I have a few requirements to be able to use it:
    1) Be able to use Wine.
    2) Decent performance in 3D, I'm not asking for the same performance as fglrx, but I'm asking for playable performance
    3) Stable

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  • bridgman
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    FYI as of last Friday's merge the radeonhd driver should have full 5xx support as well.

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  • RealNC
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    Originally posted by Extreme Coder View Post
    do any of the two drivers support 3D on an X1650 Pro now anyway?
    The radeon driver does for all R500 chips. I'm using it right now (xf86-video-ati from Git) with Compiz Fusion on an X1950XT.

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  • Extreme Coder
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    I read all this and I'm wondering, which driver of the two (radeon/radeonhd) will be THE one to use in the future?
    If both will have same 3D acceleration (which is the most important thing for me right now), and they will share lots of code (including the use of AtomBIOS) then I don't see why they can't merge or something..

    do any of the two drivers support 3D on an X1650 Pro now anyway?

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