Can a Radeon HD 2 or 3 series runs TF2?

[brosis]

Thanks, sorry I should've said I'm extremely low on money ...

My HD5850 was purchased from ebay for 50$. Just saying.

[nanonyme]

Do you have a GPU in the PC right now, and if so what is it ? Other question, I guess, is AGP or PCIE -- that makes a difference in performance these days because some settings need to be cranked down on AGP to keep them working reliably.

bridgman probably put that politically correct given he actually represents something. I don't. Avoid buying new AGP hardware at any cost. The bridges themselves are not that seldom buggy crap. Just ask any graphics developer, no one actually likes AGP. The best thing about AGP is that it's dying out.

[nanonyme]

Edit time.
In other words, if you have the choice of buying a graphics card now or saving money and getting a new motherboard with PCIE in three years, I'd just struggle with current setup and go with the latter. It's more likely to actually work without hackery and reducing performance with workarounds.

[bridgman]

bridgman probably put that politically correct given he actually represents something. I don't. Avoid buying new AGP hardware at any cost. The bridges themselves are not that seldom buggy crap. Just ask any graphics developer, no one actually likes AGP. The best thing about AGP is that it's dying out.

Nah, I was just trying to be nice. I didn't want to make a blanket "AGP is crap" without first knowing whether the OP's current system was AGP and hence knowing how carefully I had to word the response. Being polite doesn't come naturally, I really have to work at it

[xming]

on my old PC, I had a 3850 AGP, no issues. Tried TF2 about half year ago, it worked but too slow, sub 20 fps on 2560x1440.

[bridgman]

Tried TF2 about half year ago, it worked but too slow, sub 20 fps on 2560x1440.

Sounds like it might have been playable at a lower res, say 1280x720 or however close you could get ?

[TemplarGR]

On Windows, of course. On Linux, with a severe performance hit...

My 3870 on windows plays all source games with all their details turned on @1680x1050, minus AA. The fps are quite high...

On Linux, even with lower settings the fps drop often and a lot...

[Kano]

Useless effort to buy AGP cards, better go to the next recycling depot with a screwdriver and search something from the core 2 area. Or just ask your friends, should not be so hard to get a PCI-E system.

[bridgman]

On Windows, of course. On Linux, with a severe performance hit....

Sorry, I had assumed xming was talking about performance on Linux... are you saying those were Windows numbers ?

Useless effort to buy AGP cards, better go to the next recycling depot with a screwdriver and search something from the core 2 area. Or just ask your friends, should not be so hard to get a PCI-E system.

Yep, but we don't know what the OP already has access to, or if the system is even AGP. That's why I asked.

[Pontostroy]

My 3650 256 mb - 25.5 fps fullhd settings high, very impressive, hd7790 shows 90 fps

http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1402182-SO-HD365040791