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Originally posted by schmidtbag View PostAs far as I'm aware, MS didn't release it and in fact was trying to find out who did. I'm pretty sure you can't legally download the source code to XP today, but I'd legitimately like to be proven wrong.Unlock learning potential with affordable Microsoft Education technology and resources for schools. Help educators and students with innovative learning tools.
The code that was illegally leaked out was that of WIndows 98.Last edited by Sonadow; 24 January 2014, 12:24 AM.
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Originally posted by schmidtbag View PostAs far as I'm aware, MS didn't release it and in fact was trying to find out who did. I'm pretty sure you can't legally download the source code to XP today, but I'd legitimately like to be proven wrong.
There are a few other similar "Shared Source" programs :
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Originally posted by Kivada View PostThough you'd know that if you bothered to take your head out of Larabel's lower intestine.
Originally posted by Kivada View PostYep, games I got maybe a week or 2 out of before I got so bored with them I never played them again. And I'm talking got them within the month that they where released.
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Originally posted by schmidtbag View PostYou are trying WAY too hard to complain. Seriously, it's really beginning to be pathetic. You continuously ignore the reasons why your precious tests aren't done and then you taint these forums with a bad anti-community vibe. You seem completely incapable of understanding the purpose behind the tests (and the reasons why others aren't done) no matter how many times its explained to you. Linux doesn't get the same treatment as Windows, especially in the graphics department, and as such it cannot be tested the same way.
Michael's reviews aren't bad. Every once in a while they're clearly rushed, but he gets across the point that matters most - on your typical setup, how much have the drivers progressed and how much more needs to be done. I really don't see how you haven't figured that out yet.
Also on a side note, you clearly don't know much about economics if you suggest Michael run 3rd party benchmarks. As far as I'm concerned, his main product is PTS, so him running tests outside of PTS is like telling Google employees to search on Yahoo. I'm not sure how much money he makes from PTS, if he makes any at all, but the principal is he's not helping himself by using tests outside of his own personal suite.
His reviews are terrible, the only relevant test he's even running is Unigine. Everything else is as crap as a site that runs just crap synthetic benchmarks. It's as stupid as running every test on default settings then wondering where all of those performance enhancements he's reported on for the last few months have gone when he does a review.
Games with a built in benchmark aren't randomized, FRAPS is used for end users to grab video while they are gaming and see what their current framerate as they are playing. It is not used for benchmarking. Due to the overhead of FRAPS it isn't even useful for settings tweaking.
Perspective buyers don't care about how a half assed modified decades old game that nobody plays does. They want to know what the software they are actually going to run does. We've al seen Larabel's office setup, would it really kill him to hit start once every 5 mins grab the other mouse and click "Start" on the HL2:LC torture test then take a screenshot of the framerate that it spits out at the end, rinse and repeat a few times and plug the numbers into PTS's spreadsheet so it can make him a graph?
We're Linux users and hardware geeks, most of us that are interested in building our own systems don't give 2 shits about the default settings as we know how to change them to get what we want out of our setups, this is the mindset of the vast majority of people that read hardware review sites. If we where going for the default we'd have bought a fucking Dell.
You're an idiot if you don't think that Google devs don't check their results against the competition for every single product that they make. If they worked in a complete vacuum they'd have failed as badly as "beer" like Miller, Coors and Bud.
And yes, the mythical paid PTS users. IIRC what little of those there is are renting time on the server farm, since they can get PTS for free.
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Originally posted by Michael View PostAgain, there's no equation that says "better reviews" ends up equaling more money... If you take a look at H Online and other examples where they focused on quality over quantity and now they all went bust.
Heck, the top advertisers on Phoronix come down to Cisco, Dell, Intel, Microsoft, and other companies advertising their server/enterprise wares, so if anything should really focus less on gaming and more on server/workstations...
Look at it this way, your current site has more in common with the tablois/gossip mag US Weekly then it does with Scientific American, let alone SIAM Journal on Computing that you and your drones act like you are.
With your current style of review you'd be completely ignored on the server front.
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Originally posted by schmidtbag View PostAs far as I'm aware, MS didn't release it and in fact was trying to find out who did. I'm pretty sure you can't legally download the source code to XP today, but I'd legitimately like to be proven wrong.
Originally posted by Sonadow View Posthttps://www.facultyresourcecenter.co...&c1=en-us&c2=0
The code that was illegally leaked out was that of WIndows 98.
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Originally posted by Hamish Wilson View PostI hardly think I can be described as being part of some Larabel fan club. Phoronix does indeed have more than its fair share of faults. That being said, I am perfectly willing to take Larabel at his word regarding this, at the very least. You on the other hand is a different matter.
But as I'm sure, reading a Windows or Mac review site is an anti-Linux heresy for you guys.
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Originally posted by Kivada View PostIf anyone is anti community here it's you apologists that chased away many former readers of the site. I again offer you the brand check challenge of asking about Phoronix on any other site out there.
His reviews are terrible, the only relevant test he's even running is Unigine. Everything else is as crap as a site that runs just crap synthetic benchmarks. It's as stupid as running every test on default settings then wondering where all of those performance enhancements he's reported on for the last few months have gone when he does a review.
Games with a built in benchmark aren't randomized, FRAPS is used for end users to grab video while they are gaming and see what their current framerate as they are playing. It is not used for benchmarking. Due to the overhead of FRAPS it isn't even useful for settings tweaking.
I would really like to see you spend the time to write ONE article involving all the tests you want to see on phoronix. Prove that you can accurately benchmark everything that you request within a timely manner, with a useful conclusion, and I think you'll have every right to bash the GPU articles on this website. Until you realize the time and effort it takes, you REALLY need to stop whining.
Perspective buyers don't care about how a half assed modified decades old game that nobody plays does. They want to know what the software they are actually going to run does. We've al seen Larabel's office setup, would it really kill him to hit start once every 5 mins grab the other mouse and click "Start" on the HL2:LC torture test then take a screenshot of the framerate that it spits out at the end, rinse and repeat a few times and plug the numbers into PTS's spreadsheet so it can make him a graph?
On a side note, unless it's an average, taking a screenshot of the framerate at the end is a painfully inaccurate and nonrepresentational "benchmark". That's like eating a pie and judging how it tastes based on the edge crust.
We're Linux users and hardware geeks, most of us that are interested in building our own systems don't give 2 shits about the default settings as we know how to change them to get what we want out of our setups, this is the mindset of the vast majority of people that read hardware review sites. If we where going for the default we'd have bought a fucking Dell.
You're an idiot if you don't think that Google devs don't check their results against the competition for every single product that they make. If they worked in a complete vacuum they'd have failed as badly as "beer" like Miller, Coors and Bud.
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