And the catalyst still not support their muxless cards..
Just one or 3 kind under specific conditions...
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Originally posted by ldesnogu View PostI happily play World of Warcraft on my GTX 770 at 1920x1200 with all options to max in raid 25 with Wine. Of course it's not a very demanding game, but I bet I couldn't play it this way with any AMD GPU :-(
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Originally posted by Herem View PostAt the moment I have to dual boot into Windows for most of my gaming as the games I play aren't supported on Linux, so from a gaming perspective I am getting the full potential still.
Outside of Windows the currently available games really aren't that demanding. I've not found a game yet where my R290X hasn't been able to keep up with my current monitor ([email protected]) at max settings. So while the card could be benchmarking higher everything is nice and smooth and not affecting game play.
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Originally posted by ldesnogu View PostThis makes no sense: if you buy something, it's to use it to its full potential now, not sometime in the future (see 13-Way AMD GPU Open-Source Linux Driver Comparison On The Source Engine).
And I wonder if AMD isn't rather focusing on Mantle for Windows, as it makes more sense economically.
Outside of Windows the currently available games really aren't that demanding. I've not found a game yet where my R290X hasn't been able to keep up with my current monitor ([email protected]) at max settings. So while the card could be benchmarking higher everything is nice and smooth and not affecting game play.
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AMD dont have money as NVIDIA (Privative Drivers) and INTEL and for this AMD use opensource alternative (good compatibility / bad performance) for older videocards (VLIW4 arquitecture and olders) and for GCN cards (good performance / bad compatibility) AMD offer privative driver
This situation dont change in some time, for now primary option is NVIDIA (Performance - Compatibility)
Always show same tests, could add someone wine test for example assasins creed (Maximum Revelations, 3 and newer dont works DX10 upper) and see AMD results
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Originally posted by Bucic View PostAnd what exactly tells you there will ba a significant long-term gain? The way I see it it is more feasible you'll get long-term results in this case if you boycott AMD graphics until the situation improves.
While the 2013 Catalyst Linux driver updates weren't too great, on the open-source side the AMD Linux driver work was fantastic! AMD's open-source driver improvements in 2013 were splendid. Users of AMD's open-source Linux GPU driver saw Dynamic Power Management support and open-source UVD video acceleration as two of the biggest open-source AMD accomplishments of 2013.
On the open-source AMD driver side there were many performance improvements to the point that for older Radeon GPUs the performance can be sort of comparable to Catalyst. For the Radeon HD 7000 series and newer, the RadeonSI Gallium3D performance is improving and advanced a lot in 2013, but is still not yet at parity to the older R600 Gallium3D driver.Originally posted by Bucic View PostSeeing such hopeless customers I don't blame AMD they don't put effort into linux drivers and support. After all there will always be a bunch 'that hopes' who will buy the hardware anyway.
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Originally posted by Herem View PostIt looks like AMD are focusing more effort on the open source drivers than their Linux binary blobs. While it is a bit disappointing the latest cards are under performing on the binaries, if this means the open source drivers are receiving more attention as a result then I can put up with the short term pain for the long term gain.
And I wonder if AMD isn't rather focusing on Mantle for Windows, as it makes more sense economically.
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Originally posted by Herem View PostIt looks like AMD are focusing more effort on the open source drivers than their Linux binary blobs. While it is a bit disappointing the latest cards are under performing on the binaries, if this means the open source drivers are receiving more attention as a result then I can put up with the short term pain for the long term gain.
Seeing such hopeless customers I don't blame AMD they don't put effort into linux drivers and support. After all there will always be a bunch 'that hopes' who will buy the hardware anyway.
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While AMD open source drivers are improving quickly they are still behind, two years ago it seemed open source drivers would have caught up with close source drivers (at least as release day support) (http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...item&px=OTI1OQ) but today buying old hardware is still the best solution and the fact closed source drivers are not that good doesn't put AMD under a good light. I don't understand AMD strategy, they are not in the position of dropping closed source drivers but they don't seem to care much and at the same time they are not pushing the open source drivers enough to be a feasible replacement. I wonder if they do have a plan or they are just letting the departments sail by themselves...
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It looks like AMD are focusing more effort on the open source drivers than their Linux binary blobs. While it is a bit disappointing the latest cards are under performing on the binaries, if this means the open source drivers are receiving more attention as a result then I can put up with the short term pain for the long term gain.
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