AMD Kernel Mode-Setting Continues On FreeBSD

[Ericg]

I disagree, what lesterchester is saying here is pretty much well known and sensible. By taking KMS drivers from Linux, libel and Pedron are actually stealing GPLed code. Here's why:

-KMS driver is MIT licensed
-Linux kernel is GPLed
-Thus linking KMS driver to Linux GPLs the KMS driver.
-KMS (now GPLed) is taken from Linux and placed in BSD code as BSD licensed and thus violating the GPL.
-Thus libel and Pedron are in fact thieves and violating the GPL.

libel and Pedron are the ones that can be sued for damages they caused to the Linux foundation. they should be the ones who must be careful.

Yeah doesn't actually work like that... the GPL viral nature only applies for distribution. KMS is still MIT licensed even though once upon a time it was included in a GPL product, because it was technically a separate project. MIT license is BSD-like, BSD is BSD licensed, Pedron is more than welcome to take that MIT licensed code and put into FreeBSD.

Btw, Crap, you could be sued in most of the modern world. Even the USA with its Free Speech laws still has laws on slander. For whatever reason you dont want to use BSD or BSD code, good for you. But keep your mouth shut about this whole 'commit suicide' crap.

Michael, its yours and the other Mod's duties to keep order on these boards. You've apparently banned at least one because I've stopped seeing "BSDSucksAss" or whatever his name was. Start issuing warnings to the rest of these blatant, degenerate trolls, and if they don't get their acts together start banning them. Make an example of them so that others realize that this isn't the place for flames or slander or anything else. Want to talk and voice your opinion? Fine, but if you can't be respectful at the same time then keep your mouth shut.

[uid313]

Share with other OS

I hope this code gets shared with OpenBSD, NetBSD, and Dragonfly BSD too.

[i386reaper]

Yahoo! gradually moved to Linux years ago.

That's true.

[bridgman]

Thus linking KMS driver to Linux GPLs the KMS driver.

Doesn't work like that. If you distribute a kernel binary which includes the KMS driver then you need to provide or offer source code for the KMS driver (along with all the other source used to make the kernel binary) but the license of the KMS driver itself is not affected.

[Sonadow]

Linux is in pretty good shape if you look outside the desktop arena =). I doubt many regular folks feel the need to play with their OS. They also expect any pc game to work on their system. If Linux came preinstalled on more PC's and game companies saw the light and used OGL and ported all AAA games to both Linux and Mac, those numbers would skew something drastic.

I mean case in point, look at android (linux). Comes preinstalled on phones, most mobile games and apps are on it. Nobody cares about what's under the hood, just that they can play angry birds.

I know Linux is doing well in other segments that is not desktop/notebook-related. That's why i specifically mentioned 'desktop operating system' when comparing Windows to Linux to disprove someone's claims.

On an unrelated note, if you can find it within yourself to give Windows Phone 8 a try, do so. Chances are you'd be pleasantly surprised. Technically it's no where as advanced as Android v4.2 (Jelly Bean) but its userland is extremely polished and a joy to use.

And for my own safety I'm going to stop lest people start throwing words like 'shill' and 'astroturfer' or 'proprietary whore' in my way.

[nightmarex]

I can say the say thing about Linux users with Windows' 90% market share in desktop operating systems.

Linux is in pretty good shape if you look outside the desktop arena =). I doubt many regular folks feel the need to play with their OS. They also expect any pc game to work on their system. If Linux came preinstalled on more PC's and game companies saw the light and used OGL and ported all AAA games to both Linux and Mac, those numbers would skew something drastic.

I mean case in point, look at android (linux). Comes preinstalled on phones, most mobile games and apps are on it. Nobody cares about what's under the hood, just that they can play angry birds.

[lesterchester]

I have had no problems with intel kms on my labtop with pc-bsd.

Keep dreaming, you are the only one who are making this claim while others including those mentally insane enough to use BSD say the opposite.

It's either you are a blatant lier or you just have no idea whether you are runing KMS or not.

[soupbowl]

Hello Michael Larabel!

First, thank you very much for the regular articles on Phoronix!

I would like to correct one fact: the FreeBSD Foundation doesn't sponsor me to port the Radeon KMS driver, I'm doing this on my free time. However, the Foundation recently hired Konstantin Belousov, the developer who ported Intel KMS driver and the TTM memory manager, though I don't know if he was paid when he did the TTM port.

Regarding the status update I post on the FreeBSD wiki, I don't put much technical details. Would it be useful to you and Phoronix readers if I tell more?

--
Jean-S?bastien P?dron

I am definitely interested. Thanks for your work.

[dumbbell]

Hello Michael Larabel!

First, thank you very much for the regular articles on Phoronix!

I would like to correct one fact: the FreeBSD Foundation doesn't sponsor me to port the Radeon KMS driver, I'm doing this on my free time. However, the Foundation recently hired Konstantin Belousov, the developer who ported Intel KMS driver and the TTM memory manager, though I don't know if he was paid when he did the TTM port.

Regarding the status update I post on the FreeBSD wiki, I don't put much technical details. Would it be useful to you and Phoronix readers if I tell more?

--
Jean-S?bastien P?dron

[soupbowl]

I have had no problems with intel kms on my labtop with pc-bsd.