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Originally posted by Sonadow View PostRadeonSI and Northern Islands comparison or this benchmark is useless.
No sane person uses a 4xxx series on a desktop anymore. Except for old fogies who are too cheap to upgrade their hardware.
If I was into conspiracy theories I'd even suspect that AMD is trying to kill the 48XX on purpose by dropping driver support, because it is so good even after 4 fsckin years.
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Originally posted by log0 View PostAnd the 4850 runs even recent games just fine.
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Originally posted by Sonadow View PostSo by your logic the whole world should just stick to obsolete hardware like Intel's integrated GMA 950 graphics core because it's capable of running Windows 7's Aero, Windows 8's desktop effects, Compiz and the built-in compositors + desktop effects found in the latest versions of KDE and Gnome even though it's more than 5 years old.
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Originally posted by j2723 View PostSo by your logic, the whole world should just buy new hardware when they do not actually need to?
Because of obsolescence and EOL status.
In fact, let's take it one step further. Why even upgrade your OS? Let's all stick with Ubuntu 7.04 and all other distros' equivalents at that level since nobody needs to use GTK3 and QT4 and the latest additions to the GCC compiler and the glibc / libstdc++ libraries. GTK2, QT3 and old versions of GCC and the C libraries can still compile most of today's open source software, so why bother upgrading to newer libraries that nobody needs?Last edited by Sonadow; 13 February 2013, 11:16 AM.
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Originally posted by Sonadow View PostYes.
Because of obsolescence and EOL status.
In fact, let's take it one step further. Why even upgrade your OS? Let's all stick with Ubuntu 7.04 and all other distros' equivalents at that level since nobody needs to use GTK3 and QT4 and the latest additions to the GCC compiler and the glibc / glibc++ libraries.
Hardware costs money to upgrade, software upgrades are free.
I have nothing to lose when I upgrade my software (other than stability, in the worst case), I do however, lose money by upgrading my hardware, therefore I must first look to see if it is "worth" upgrading. If my "obsolete" hardware can do the work just fine, why should I waste my money.
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By the way, the same thing can apply to proprietary software, take for instance Photoshop, why upgrade from CS4 to CS5 when CS4 can do everything you need to be able to do? I am mainly talking about FOSS, however.Last edited by j2723; 13 February 2013, 11:23 AM.
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Originally posted by j2723 View PostApples and Oranges.
Hardware costs money to upgrade, software upgrades are free.
I have nothing to lose when I upgrade my software (other than stability, in the worst case), I do however, lose money by upgrading my hardware, therefore I must first look to see if it is "worth" upgrading. If my "obsolete" hardware can do the work just fine, why should I waste my money?
And software upgrades are never free. Red Hat charges for upgrades. Microsoft and Apple charge for upgrades. Oracle and IBM charge for upgrades. SAP charges for upgrades. So you telling me that server admins running Red Hat / Microsoft servers loaded with Oracle / IBM / SAP applications should never upgrade their systems because their software updates are not free.
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Originally posted by Sonadow View PostSo by your logic the whole world should just stick to obsolete hardware like Intel's integrated GMA 950 graphics core because it's capable of running Windows 7's Aero, Windows 8's desktop effects, Compiz and the built-in compositors + desktop effects found in the latest versions of KDE and Gnome even though it's more than 5 years old.
Just admit that you are wrong and everything you say is BS and just move on...
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