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  • Linuxhippy
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    How much different ideas have I thrown into Bridgeman camp? 1, 2, 3, 4? No, they are perfectly satisfied with the overall progress. At this rate R800 support will match catalyst in 2017, remember this.
    The usual problem with OSS projects.
    Many guys have THE idea to bring the project forward, but usually those guys don't have the knowledge to implement it themself and the are angry, because their idea (beeing good or bad) isn't considered.

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  • crazycheese
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    Originally posted by Tgui View Post
    Hows that possible? Canadian types are the most agreeable people on the planet. I could spit in your face and then you would certainly thank me for the human contact.
    How many canadians do you need to screw the bulb in? Whole country?

    // Sorry, enough pointless talking.

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  • crazycheese
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    Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post
    Q jumped on board the crazycheese train a while ago.
    What would you do in my shoes, when somebody offers to go opensource (1),
    clearly knows the shortcomings of development speed (which make the solution completely unattractive) (2),
    and denies ANY attempt to improve the situation or withdraws himself from that (3). Huh?

    How much different ideas have I thrown into Bridgeman camp? 1, 2, 3, 4? No, they are perfectly satisfied with the overall progress. At this rate R800 support will match catalyst in 2017, remember this.

    Mind you, I purchased two radeon cards for sake of opensource, the second dive was better, like going from completely unusable and crashing into slow as a fck. In two years. For same gen.
    Should I report that as bug? But the devs are already 101% busy, doing 1000x job which is perfect in Bridgeman's opinion. He thinks the formula is perfect, there is no need to correct anything, but I beg to differ.
    Remember, no external help is appreciated.

    Btw, first radeon (R100) is broken completely (KMS). I may upload errata soon, if someone cares (even for the sake of "radeon feature").

    Also, compare: http://openbenchmarking.org/result/1...DU3NzA&compare

    If Radeon driver Kickstarter project eventually gets rolling, that would be first ray of light.

    Where does my attitude towards gfx hardware and linux differs in general from that of Bridgeman? I don't consider Linux and GNU to be "construction yard of broken parts", I consider them to be an operating system.
    If the hardware is proprietary and works - fine, ok, usable.
    If it is opensource and broken and company is really in to fix it, taking everything from the community, maximizing the effort - even better. How to see it? Compare the development rate and attitude.
    If it is opensource and works - best case.

    The case with AMD? Opensource, broken and don't bother.

    The thing is, you DO NEED to pay to even test AMD driver because you need hardware. Multiply this by complete disinterest from their side and you have the idea.

    Why should I pay in this case? There are a lot of broken opensource projects, whose developers do not care about it(they even state it so). For me, such project belong to trash bin.

    Should I bother if help's not wanted? What J.C. said about throwing jewels in front of the pigs?

    Nvidia + Linux works for me as in "fine, ok, usable", so I have no option but to tolerate it. Burnt my fingers twice already, no thanks.

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  • Tgui
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    Originally posted by bridgman View Post
    I think he just hates me
    Hows that possible? Canadian types are the most agreeable people on the planet. I could spit in your face and then you would certainly thank me for the human contact.

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  • smitty3268
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    Originally posted by Nille View Post
    Q since when are you a AMD Hater. In the past you was the biggest AMD Fanboy in the forum and now you make a 180? turn.
    Q jumped on board the crazycheese train a while ago.

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  • bridgman
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    I think he just hates me
    Last edited by bridgman; 05-24-2012, 02:18 PM.

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  • Nille
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    Q since when are you a AMD Hater. In the past you was the biggest AMD Fanboy in the forum and now you make a 180? turn.

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  • Linuxhippy
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    meanwhile

    Meanwhile, I am waiting for my tinity based laptop to arrive mid-june =)

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  • Linuxhippy
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    Hopefully

    Hopefully AMD will catch up with Intel when it comes to their open source drivers.

    While Intel has an insanly fast 2D acceleration architecture (SNA), AMD still uses EXA which likes to copy pixmap data arround like mad, instead executing the requested operations
    Hopefully the Gallium3D based DDX will solve these problems - hopefully not only for CGN.

    And while Intel's OpenGL driver on Linux is more or less compareable to the closed-source counterpart, the open-source AMD opengl drivers lack a lot of features and performance.

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  • log0
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    Looks like I've let irritate myself by the local vdrift vblank_mode numbers. The difference must be solely due to pcie_gen2=1 then?

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