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  • kraftman
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    Originally posted by ChrisXY View Post
    Explained many times = many forum posts = many forum views = many ad views. What's strange about it?
    Right, you've got the point! It seems money means more for Phoronix than reputation.

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  • ChrisXY
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    Originally posted by kraftman View Post
    It's strange Phoronix does the same mistakes every time. It was explained many times to make meaningful benchmarks you have to use the same DE.
    Explained many times = many forum posts = many forum views = many ad views. What's strange about it?

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  • kraftman
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    Originally posted by Qaridarium
    KDE also improve a lot if you don't use the catalyst with kde4,8 you get a much faster openGL2 rendering. with the newest QT its also much faster.
    It's enough to make tests with suspend composition option enabled.

    ++++++

    It's strange Phoronix does the same mistakes every time. It was explained many times to make meaningful benchmarks you have to use the same DE.

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  • AnonymousCoward
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    Originally posted by Qaridarium
    in fact you are wrong because: michael drive the phoronix forum do FIX that!

    now we all know the test is invalid only because of the Phoronix-forum.

    in fact if someone read the article without reading the forum he is just Stupid.
    Hm, so now you're saying that article quality doesn't matter, since the nice forum-dwelling volunteers will fix any mistakes anyway? Well, maybe it doesn't matter to you since you seem to have enough time to waste on forums, but I'd expect someone who wants his articles taken seriously to 1) make sure they are correct before publishing, and 2) if notified of errors, to correct them or at least point them out in the article. Why would you expect a reader to read through potentially pages of comments to find out if an article is actually correct, and how would they know which forum poster is right?

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  • AnonymousCoward
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    http://phoronix.com/forums/showthrea...829#post246829

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  • AnonymousCoward
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    Originally posted by marek View Post
    Michael, next time you make an article, please do it at least right.
    Unfortunately, better articles are not economically viable at this point.

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  • darkbasic
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    Marek can you please test kde without desktop effects? Thanks

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  • log0
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    Why not run the benchmarks in a separate xserver instance? There are tutorials/scripts all over the net showing how to do it.

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  • marek
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    Hi, I have just tried a simple glxgears test with all the desktop environments I have. I have to say that the results are quite astonishing. It proves that the testing methodology of the article is flawed and the presented results are unfair to say the least. Now the comparison (rounded to tens):

    Unity - 4260 FPS
    Unity 2D - 3540 FPS
    KDE - 3830 FPS
    Gnome 2 - 6000 FPS
    Xfce - 6160 FPS

    The article is comparing Catalyst and R300g and at the same time it's comparing Unity and Gnome 2 (why?). We know from the article that Catalyst+Gnome2 is faster than R300g+Unity. We can say for sure that Catalyst is likely faster than R300g in most or all tests, but we already know that from previous benchmarks. We also know that Gnome 2 is faster than Unity. What the article doesn't show is how much exactly Catalyst is faster than R300g, because it doesn't compare the two in the same desktop environment.

    Michael, next time you make an article, please do it at least right.

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  • dungeon
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    I tested UT also on Debian Etch, so squash results...
    Code:
    Urban Terror 4.1
    
                640x480 800x600 1024x768 1280x1024 1920x1080
    
    UMS-7.5.2    141.7   115.2    80.0     52.6      35.4   
    
    KMS-git      107.8   100.2    74.0               33.3
    
    FGLRX        216.1   171.2    114.7    72.6      48.5
    
    UMS-6.5.1    146.2   118.5    82.5     53.3
    
    WindowsXP    200.3   188.7   142.0     92.9      61.0
    DVI was not work with fglrx, but radeon was with both VGA/DVI until 3D is on with DVI then monitor go to sleep - just like with current driver.

    Fglrx on Windows and Catalyst on Windows both give blurred fonts on VGA, DVI on Windows is OKish - on Linux both are good (with bug on DVI).

    Video playback is good with VideoOverlay on, direct3d on Windows, Overlay on UMS and KMS's only TexturedVideo explicitly needs compozite naci-vblank (dia-tear) which halfed vsynced 3d;(.
    ..............

    Need to change cables (etch/fglrx was not work when both are pluged in), i'll become blind with VGA on XP.
    Last edited by dungeon; 24 January 2012, 09:56 PM.

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