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  • Originally posted by Qaridarium View Post
    i think most of the gamers use nvidia drivers means nvidia kill the most of the childs.
    Well if you really want to follow that stupid reasoning (delivery vs the content determining the 'kill rate') then I should point out most gaming consoles use ATI chips therefore with your logic, AMD kills the most children.

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    • ....use [company X] for the children!

      this thread's gone completely nuts. Next up, aliens are involved in [company X]'s design process!

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      • READ THE FSCKING EULA! If you don't like it don't buy it , don't use it and certainly don't break it by 'pirating'

        Free software guarantees you as the end user certain rights and no other license agreement does this - hence free software will always be better!

        EDIT: but you already know this right??

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        • Originally posted by mirv
          this thread's gone completely nuts. Next up, aliens are involved in [company X]'s design process!
          No need to go fantastic. We're just making the day of the people waiting for good amd open source drivers. Making sure they have a good time while waiting.

          Coz I was one of them once. Waiting for 2 years to get support for my r580 gpu. And guess what? Still in 2011, blender, unigine sanctuary-tropics and many more applications including very important ones like maya and houdini don't work with r300g driver. Its perfectly understandable, because thats the best 2 main independent developers and other developers working on the graphics stack could do, and I appreciate their work.
          After 2 (two) years of waiting, thanks to Intel's (not amd's or independent developers') glsl compiler my r580 was finally (hardly) doing glsl rendering.
          Even 6 months is too much to wait. But 2 years is a shitload of a lot of time to wait in computers bussiness. So... Here is a SitRep of the present situation:

          AMD's closed source driver still sucks in terms of tearless 2d, webgl stuff, new kernel and xserver support, various show stopper bugs etc., and is hardly usable.

          AMD's open source support is basic and their opensource developers don't deal with 3D support, just the modesetting and power management bits and its independent developers' (and intel's) job to bring OpenGL 3.X, 4.X support to these drivers (roughly another 2 years time to wait for this taking into account the huge work to be done on the glsl stack)

          And amd can drop their lackluster binary support for select hardware anytime, so its a serious risk.

          Now its up to you to choose. I chose gts450 as my gpu update and guess what:

          IT WORKS

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          • Well, good for you.
            My radeon3650 works perfectly fine with the closed source drivers from AMD, so good for me.

            ...but, I should point out that nvidia can drop their lackluster binary support at any time, and then you're left up the creek without a paddle, so it's a bit more of a serious risk.

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            • but, I should point out that nvidia can drop their lackluster binary support at any time
              http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux-d...14-driver.html

              Take a good look at this page and have an idea of when nvidia will drop support for my Geforce 400 series hardware. In other words: In your dreams mate

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              • On that page you'll see under supported products tab: riva128. Which was released in 1997 and still supported by legacy drivers.

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                • Exactly. Legacy drivers. Didn't they stop supporting newer xorg versions with those?
                  Yes, nvidia does stop supporting things after a while too. Only with AMD, you do have an alternative, even if it has taken a little while to bang things into proper shape (the whole Linux graphics driver stack needed an update first, btw, which is not the sole responsibility of AMD).
                  What's your next shot?

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                  • What if don't choose linux as my kernel - perhaps hurd instead who will support this? If I have the source code and I am free to modify it I have the opportunity ( perhaps not the ability ) to support it myself.

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                    • Originally posted by mirv View Post
                      Exactly. Legacy drivers. Didn't they stop supporting newer xorg versions with those?
                      Yes, nvidia does stop supporting things after a while too. Only with AMD, you do have an alternative, even if it has taken a little while to bang things into proper shape (the whole Linux graphics driver stack needed an update first, btw, which is not the sole responsibility of AMD).
                      What's your next shot?
                      Only the oldest of the old have nvidia stopped supporting newer versions of Xorg. Legacy in nvidia land does not mean dropping support. Everything that has been manufactured for a better part of a decade has had several xorg bump updates done to it.

                      You are presenting a Henny Penny argument.

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