The Open-Source ATI Driver Is Becoming A Lot Faster

[V!NCENT]

Nobody lolled at my hypothesis? I am dissapoint.
Anyway Gordshit has no legal ground to stand on whatsoever so whatever...

[darkbasic]

MostAwesomeDude: Revan199: They cannot legally provide certain information to the community.
MostAwesomeDude: Specifically, anisotropic filtering, S3TC formats, MPEG formats, video decoding, and possibly the various firmware stuff.

Even anisotropic filtering? OMG
I hope someone will reverse S3TC for R600 hardware too...

[pingufunkybeat]

I still don't get it :P OpenGL is an open standard that is so open that it needs to be reverse engineered?

The OpenGL standard describes an API. You still need to translate that API to hardware calls -- this is what the driver does.

If you don't know how to pass the needed data to the gfx card, you can wipe your ass with the open standard.

BTW, please show me D3D for gallium working on any hardware, and specifically using S3TC on any hardware.

[RealNC]

I still don't get it :P OpenGL is an open standard that is so open that it needs to be reverse engineered?

And you complain about D3D for Gallium >.<

[pingufunkybeat]

And so? It can be delivered as an external library and I can use it because I live in Europe, where's the problem?

The library is not enough, you still need to hack/reverse-engineer parts of the hardware.

This was done for older hardware, but not for r600+, the way I understand. That's why there's no support yet.

Check it out here: http://radeonhd.org/?page=archive_di...10&d=2010-9-12

MostAwesomeDude: Revan199: They cannot legally provide certain information to the community.
MostAwesomeDude: Specifically, anisotropic filtering, S3TC formats, MPEG formats, video decoding, and possibly the various firmware stuff.

So yes, blame patents for not having S3TC. That part still needs to be reverse-engineered.

[darkbasic]

Trolls do not want to calm down, please stop feeding him.

[Adarion]

I just wanted to write something reasonable here to calm down the flamewar but apparently that flamewar got out of control beyond reason.

@gordboy
Threatening phoronix media with legalese stuff is surely not the way if you happen to have a problem with other users. Ignore them and they will ignore you. Go different ways and keep distance.

[lucx]

Dear Michael.

If you do not ban Vincent from this forum forever, I will have no hesitation in contacting your provider, godaddy, and asking them to pull this site.

You are clearly unable to control the people here. Make no mistake, allowing that sort of disgraceful CRAP is not only irresponsible, it is also illegal in the US.

Also, fully expect to be contacted by disabled rights organizations and the FBI if you fail to comply.

O my GOOD, and when you think about world is full with guys like him. Who are you Hitler?

[Nille]

But this don't explain why r300g can S3TC and not the r600g (Manpower excluded).

[RealNC]

Dear Michael.

If you do not ban Vincent from this forum forever, I will have no hesitation in contacting your provider, godaddy, and asking them to pull this site.

You are clearly unable to control the people here. Make no mistake, allowing that sort of disgraceful CRAP is not only irresponsible, it is also illegal in the US.

Also, fully expect to be contacted by disabled rights organizations and the FBI if you fail to comply.

This is fun, lol