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  • Kano
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    The first apps directly show glsl errors. specviewperf is just an extra, but game speed should be compared with all features set to max. When a highend cards with oss is slower than a lowend with fglrx then something is wrong.

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  • bridgman
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    With respect, your list might be just the tiniest bit Kano-centric

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  • Kano
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    to define a driver at least basically feature complete it has to run these things without any errors and REASONABLE speed compared to fglrx. it does not help when it runs like a dia show.

    a) gl2benchmark
    b) zero ballistics
    c) all common oss games - you find serveral in pts
    d) ut2004, quake4, etqw
    e) specviewperf

    when a card is dropped before then something is wrong with the policy.

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  • PsynoKhi0
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    Originally posted by Kano View Post
    Hopefully next time when there are new legacy cards these work directly not 1+ years after last fglrx driver for em.
    Damn... When that happens there will be one less thing for you to farm post count with pointless whining Tough...

    But fear not! There might still be hope in case video acceleration still isn't good enough for your taste! Actually I've written a letter for bridgman to use (licensed under Creative Commons so I won't sue anyone):
    PRIORITY : CRITICAL

    To whom it may concern,
    I hereby pledge the fglrx development team to stop focusing its bug tracking efforts on any topic that might impact our paying business customers, to instead focus on Xv video output - because you know, it's the only thing that counts - for the sake of one guy on the Phoronix forums who almost prouds himself for not having shelled out the money for the only ATI card he owns.
    Sarcasm aside, but right before I stop being polite, how much thought do you put in your posts here? Do you SERIOUSLY think you help push things forward with that attitude?

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  • bridgman
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    The open source drivers already exist for 6xx/7xx so not sure where the delay would come from...

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  • Kano
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    Hopefully next time when there are new legacy cards these work directly not 1+ years after last fglrx driver for em.

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  • bridgman
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    Sure, but one requires developer effort to resolve, one primarily needs user feedback, and the third one just needs people to ask "so, like, why isn't xxx enabled by default ?".

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  • Kano
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    Well the result is the same for the normal user. Till i would suggest somebody using oss drivers for ati cards then those will be legacy.

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  • bridgman
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    If something is not enabled by default there are usually three possible explanations :

    - there are known problems which are sufficiently serious to keep it disabled for now

    - there are no known serious problems but the devs don't feel there is sufficient user/test coverage to enable by default yet

    - the feature is ready to go but nobody got around to enabling it by default (the devs normally have the WIP features enabled on their systems anyways so it's not actually obvious when a default needs to change)

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  • cutterjohn
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    Originally posted by Panix View Post
    Sorry, one last part to the other post: I was wondering how temps in Linux. My current card, as I said, 7950 GT gets about 47 to 50 degrees, give or take, idle. I think it's around the same in Windows. I haven't really compared it, lately. I don't know if this is typical for this card but it seems acceptable.
    My 7600 GT would get up to 55C under FULL loads.

    I'm wondering how a HD 4850 or HD 4770 would do for temps in Linux and whether there's a big change depending on whether you use FOSS driver or the FGLRX driver. So, 1) what are the temps? 2) what are the temps using a)foss driver; b)binary fglrx driver
    My 4850 mobility pegs at 80C under FULL load, and generally 65 - low 70s C under most apps, which seems to approximate very well to desktop 4850 temps as seen in various reviews.

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