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  • jrch2k8
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    i think this wont happen any time soon, at least not until gallium get full openGL 3.2 support, why?

    1.) UVD2 is not that good to begin with and well and i doubt it will leave AMD documents review office soon

    2.) i think this far in time UVD2 or VA-API or VDPAU arent necessary anymore in the opensource world

    3.) all postproc code need to be ajusted for either one you choose or they have to be coded inside the library for the method you choose

    about number "2.)" think about it, support any of those will require an specific set of developer to maintain the code, this technologies are all propietaries to begin with and there is no way AMD support VDPAU api or nVIDIA support UVD2 to have some sort of standarization and VA-API is still too young and unsupported in almost all video players (at least not without have some patch and fix fun).

    so whatever of those 3 you choose will just add more overheat to the code and another VO devices (like we dont have enough already lol) in our favorite media player, beside the normal average joe dont need more complexity to watch videos.

    now is true that linux need hardware accelerated VO too, in my view the perfect solution should be XV output.

    1.)XV is tested and very well know, is fully supported everywhere, rigth now is better than anything in windows (at least in my experience) except when vdpau and UVD come to play, lol with XV even my old pc athlon x2 3800 was able to play H264 1080p videos without lost sync (i know is a nice cpu ofc XD but windows without gpu accel loose the sync in that pc )

    2.) Tear free video is a reality in xv in almost any configuration (intel, AMD and nvidia in all my pc's play tear free videos just perfectly, but is true that my pc's arent netbooks or toys like that)

    so you dont think that give a nice upgrade the current XV code would be the nicest solution? see my ideas

    1.) allow current XV code to load plugins instead of pure Xorg code, so when you initialize the overlay XV choose whatever engine fit best, note that this plugins will be only in the lower layer of the code, the one that actually process the frame not the external api to maintainiit transparent for the player

    2.) give XV 3 basic plugins: Xorg current code plugins, a fully shader 1.50 rendering plugin and a vdpau rendering plugin (in future could openCL instead of shaders ofc)

    3.) give XV a simple method to choose the output automatically based on the postproc and the video size/codec for example or simple a sub item in xv configuration inside video players

    4.) any postproc library you use woulndt need any modification or in the worst case only a minimal adjustment or optimization

    is a fact that this solution probably wouldnt be a match 100% with the vdpau performance but would be close enough in any decent card + the ability of being transparent and almost no need to do any recode in another library like postproc for example (ofc haveing this probably add shader rutines to postproc library would help a lot too)

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  • madman2k
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    ah, ok. do you know if someone is already working on VA-API or VDPAU over gallium already? Or is just thoughts up till now?

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  • bridgman
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    The upper-level XvMC-over-Gallium3D code already existed (running over Nouveau) as a result of Younes Manton's GSOC project...

    http://bitblitter.blogspot.com/

    ... although the lower level APIs are changing as a result of more recent Gallium3D design discussions. Cooper is working on driver-level stuff using the existing upper-level code.

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  • madman2k
    started a topic AMD working on XvMC for r300g?

    AMD working on XvMC for r300g?

    http://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mes...1fb9c17d2c2ecc

    why XvMC and not go directly to VDPAU or VA-API?
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