
Linux 6.13 To Allow Controlling Zero RPM Feature For Radeon RX 7000 Series GPUs
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Deja vu; I remember hating that feature back on my HD 7850 and disabling Ulps on Windows to avoid that behavior
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Originally posted by Hibbelharry View PostYou just always see a post with a 'fuck you xyz' by Danny. It's just the same funny anger management issues over and over again.
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Originally posted by Danny3 View PostFuck you AMD for not doing this yourself and before the 6.12 LTS!
But let's get to the point I really wanted to reply to:
Originally posted by Danny3 View PostAs for people not understanding why some of us always ask AMD to bring their graphical control panel for Linux too, this is one of the many reasons!
If they did, things like these would've been wired in the Linux drivers too a long time ago.
See this very feature: It will be controlled via sysfs, so no GUI interaction at all. If there would have been a GUI nothing would be different from that.
I personally will never see real benefits of those GUIs I guess.
Originally posted by Danny3 View PostPersonally not only that i want to have the ability to toggled this feature on or off but I also want to be able to set the threshold temperature depending on what I'm doing and how much noise I want to have.
Originally posted by Danny3 View PostSo I'm really happy that it's finally here, but I'm extremely disappointed that it missed the LTS kernel and the fact that AMD cares so little about Linux users experience with their products!
AMD cares, they spend and spent a lot of money by paying developers because they do. Without those we still wouldn't have pretty good support of their cards at all. GPGPU is still messy but except of that, we're smoothly sailing along.
Originally posted by Danny3 View PostAnyway, congratulations and many thanks to the one who implemented it!
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Originally posted by skeevy420 View PostSo now they should do it unless the driver was written by a mediocre student? That's one hefty assumption you're making. Your sample size of you and the limited things you interact with seem to be guiding you to the conclusion that everything is made with quality parts that are capable of being fine-tuned in their operation. Some things are just cheaply made shit. Some things are from back in the day when power efficiency wasn't necessarily a factor in product design.
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Originally posted by M@yeulC View Post
I think part of the confusion here (at least for me) is that such curves were already customizable. I think so, at least, IIRC it was an option in Corectl last I looked.
With actual 0 RPM you can define an on/off threshold temperature whereas Corectl you set the first power state to use a power level below the fan's activation threshold so the fan's don't turn on(mine is 9). You lose a state emulating 0 RPM with Corectl.
Originally posted by bug77 View Post
I think you're the one making assumptions. I haven't heard a fan spinning constantly at max speeds in over a decade. So all the "if X then Y's" are already there. Unless the driver was written by a mediocre student or smth.
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Originally posted by Danny3 View PostFuck you AMD for not doing this yourself and before the 6.12 LTS!
As for people not understanding why some of us always ask AMD to bring their graphical control panel for Linux too, this is one of the many reasons!
If they did, things like these would've been wired in the Linux drivers too a long time ago.
Personally not only that i want to have the ability to toggled this feature on or off but I also want to be able to set the threshold temperature depending on what I'm doing and how much noise I want to have.
So I'm really happy that it's finally here, but I'm extremely disappointed that it missed the LTS kernel and the fact that AMD cares so little about Linux users experience with their products!
Anyway, congratulations and many thanks to the one who implemented it!
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Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post
You're making a lot of assumptions there. Not everything has to have a curve. It's a fan. It could just be lazily programmed to run at its highest RPM without any user settings. It's a feature because someone has to write multiple "if X then Y's" all throughout the code so the driver knows that below a certain temp you want the RPM to be zero, they create variables so the user can define those certain temps, and then we as the users get to go and use it.
Just because you've become so accustomed to that being a feature that exists in so many places that you don't even see it as a feature making you jaded to something else picking it up doesn't make it any less of a feature.
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Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post
You're making a lot of assumptions there. Not everything has to have a curve. It's a fan. It could just be lazily programmed to run at its highest RPM without any user settings. It's a feature because someone has to write multiple "if X then Y's" all throughout the code so the driver knows that below a certain temp you want the RPM to be zero, they create variables so the user can define those certain temps, and then we as the users get to go and use it.
Just because you've become so accustomed to that being a feature that exists in so many places that you don't even see it as a feature making you jaded to something else picking it up doesn't make it any less of a feature.
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A GPU that needs a fan for basic desktop apps is a major design failure.
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Zero fan is great. No reason for extra noise while the GPU is just rendering my desktop or decoding a video. I was a little disappointed that it wasn't implemented for some of the "pro" cards like the W5700 though. I get that the assumption is those cards are dealing with "pro" workloads and aren't going to be idle as often, but it still would have been nice to have.
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