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  • DanL
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    Originally posted by nuetzel View Post
    Read them, again.
    Oh, I see. Forgive me for not understanding your poorly formatted original post.

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  • Slartifartblast
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    Originally posted by pharmasolin View Post

    They are taking consequences of their greed right now. Their driver for linux is not in great state as well, especially for games which are using XeSS. So no, thank you. (For now)
    And that idle power draw, ouch my electricity bill.

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  • Magissia
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    It is really nice to see some are still working on the drivers for older cards, I always feel the cards are "end of life " before everything was squeezed out of them.

    Originally posted by TemplarGR View Post

    The best solution for regular consumers are intel gpus, actually. Better value for money. And the fuzzy feeling that you promote competition in the gpu market to fight off the duopoly that has inflated prices for so long.
    Yes and no. It depends. If we talk strictly Linux, the Intel GPU are great except if you game and want to play games using XeSS.
    On Windows the Intel dedicated GPU aren't there yet.

    I don't think AMD is inflating the GPU prices, that's an nVidia practice.

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  • nuetzel
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    Originally posted by DanL View Post

    So? I agree he probably has access to at least one Polaris card, but again, maybe he didn't have a system with one ready to go, or he didn't have time, or he felt that the Tonga results were representative enough for gfx8 cards that he didn't bother repeating the experiment on Polaris.



    They seem meaningless to me without anything to compare them to.​
    Read them, again.
    And do the math - Marek and Pierre-Eric could do it, so it was Acked.

    For your pleasure:

    energy-03
    Window 1900 x 1600, fps
    orig patch
    Composite Score 3,75 7,85
    Blake Ridge volume 3,43 7,31
    F3 Netherlands 9,61 16,28
    Opunake 0,99 2,57
    BRV with 4,97 11,09
    F3N with 12,72 20,94
    OV with 1,34 3,30

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  • nuetzel
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    Originally posted by You- View Post
    Someone did post figures for polaris (rx580) in the merge request. I cant seem to understand what those figures mean though.
    Hu?
    Read them, again.

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  • coder
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    Originally posted by pharmasolin View Post
    this shows that radeon cards for regular consumers are superior choice for now (at least while not just new hardware gets updates and attention from an open driver team).
    Tell me: how dependent are "regular consumer" games & GPU-accelerated apps on 3D texture performance?

    Google has failed me, I could not find anything informative. So perhaps GameDev can :). What are 3D textures? When are they used? Performance costs? How are they stored? I have many vague ideas, ...



    Surely, you didn't think AMD left so much untapped performance for regular texture mapping!

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  • ET3D
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    Although this fix is great, it feels more like "oops, our drivers slowed things down by mistake" than "wow, we some magical performance." Still, well done and it's great that Marek and the Linux drivers aren't bound by the deprecation policy from the Windows size.

    Originally posted by TemplarGR View Post
    The best solution for regular consumers are intel gpus, actually. Better value for money. And the fuzzy feeling that you promote competition in the gpu market to fight off the duopoly that has inflated prices for so long.
    Not that much better value for money, and obviously if Intel ever gets competitive in GPU space it will raise prices. Intel won't want to keep the low margin it has due to Alchemist being large and inefficient. Intel's 406 mm2 chip performs about the same as AMD's Navi 33 that's half the size on the same process. Hopefully Battlemage will be better, but still, I see no reason for Intel to really push prices down once it becomes competitive.

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  • NeoMorpheus
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    Originally posted by TemplarGR View Post

    The best solution for regular consumers are intel gpus, actually. Better value for money. And the fuzzy feeling that you promote competition in the gpu market to fight off the duopoly that has inflated prices for so long.
    I guess that you forgot how big intel still is, compared to AMD.

    Also forgot how dirty intel still is (explain how dell still magically only use intel in their lucrative optiplex, latitude lines) or how they treated all of us when they had no competition.

    Nah, fuck intel and ngreedia, both sucks from a consumer perspective.

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  • chithanh
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    Originally posted by RejectModernity View Post
    Bruh's been playing solitaire on his Intel iGPU and thinks that enough for an average gamer.💀💀
    Originally posted by RejectModernity View Post
    Drivers on linux are subpar to window's ones. Games on windows perform up to 30% better. Include here that Intel said fuck off to archmage users declining media engine
    It is also a problem with iGPUs. Try running Bazzite on an MSI Claw A1M, it is a miserable experience, way worse than on Windows (which is already not very good). The driver is lacking important Vulkan features. No convenient way of controlling TDP. Etc.

    Originally posted by Jorgp2 View Post
    Ahh, yes your response straight from google shows a strong understanding of the subject matter.
    I don't think your posts demonstrate great knowledge or understanding either, or at least suffer from very selective memory.

    Originally posted by Jorgp2 View Post
    how many years it took AMD to actually implement power management for their CPUs.

    On the Intel side, they actually work on hardware support before launch. And the community can actually work on the code themselves, since anyone can download their documentation without signing an NDA.
    Originally posted by Jorgp2 View Post
    Why did Intel have to patch AMDs CPUs, if AMD is so commited to supporting their hardware on linux?
    If Intel is so committed to getting their hardware work on Linux then what about Poulsbo and its successors? Phoronix has been reporting for many years on this sad story. When a volunteer (inside Intel) got fed up with the situation and started to write a reverse engineered driver, they were even instructed to keep it outside of i915 despite considerable amounts of code duplication.

    And it is not that the situation was perfect outside Poulsbo. If you had a Bay Trail system, then maybe you came across the over a thousand comments long kernel bugzilla report how power management would lock up the CPU, which got almost no attention from Intel for years.

    The successor Cherry Trail was supported only partially as well. Again a volunteer (this time from Red Hat) had to come work on bringing essential functionality to these devices.

    I'm all for calling out AMD when they fall short. But portraying Intel as some kind of role model is completely not warranted. AMD at least aims for full open source support of all their CPUs and GPUs, something which can't be said from Intel.

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  • Eirikr1848
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    Working in the test lab for a developer like this would be a remarkable experience, dang.

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