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  • #41
    IMHO you are plain wrong about ChatGPT not being creative... it can create stuff it never saw by piecing together stuff it saw, even across contexts, as i've seen first-hand several times... even the so-called halucinations are proof of it

    as a colleague of mine (an environmental researcher) once said: "it quoted an article that just didn't exist anywhere in the world, but that article should definitely exist!"

    ChatGPT even lied that the article was from a real-world author and this author did indeed work on related subjects, coherent but not the core of the invented piece

    this is not an uncommon sight if you use it enough

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    • #42
      and you are also being a bit obtuse IMHO about what neurons do vs. what eletronic-based mathematical weights can achieve... just because the material basis for two physical phenomena are absurdly different doesn't mean their end results can't be functionally equivalent to some degree...

      look up "fairy ring pixie circle complex system emerging pattern" for a didatic example of functionally similar emerging patterns from radically different underlying physical phenomena

      in more specific terms, when a neuron creats a synapse to another neuron it is functionally attributing a mathematical weight to that impulse pathway which isgenerally helping link some of that biological body's inputs to some of that same biological body's outputs... you can argue several functional differences between current-gen LLMs like ChatGPT and a human brain (eg: neuron synapses have timing-dependance between an impulse and previous impulse through the same neuron, whereas ChatGPT is sort of stateless), but those differences in implementation detail are not synonym to one being thinking and the other not being thinking

      that is the same class of mistake several scientists made (defining "Life" by its material basis instead of a functional definition, eg: "has DNA material") that caused most to reject seeing viruses as Life, then later hampered even admiting prions can exist

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      • #43
        and you seem to have failed to grasp that a human baby isn't just physically inept, it is mentally far more helpless than other animals, making it a poor argument mind to mind with an untrained AI (which is an unfair comparison to begin with because a newborn has already been trained in-womb a lot)

        it's not just uncalcified bones that prevent it from crawling, it just isn't born knowing how to coordinate that sort of movement yet, whereas calf can sometimes do it in minutes

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