AMD Radeon RX 7800 XT & RX 7700 XT Linux Performance

[JEBjames]

Michael

Typos

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"performance wax coming in right" should probably be "performance was coming in right"

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"With re-testing all GPUs each time on the latest drivers and then some timing complications this time around plus the Linux 6.6 merge window abound and planning to test DRM-Next / Linux 6.6 Git state soon, this comparison for the launch day doesn't have the prior generation graphics cards yet re-tested as well as some games missing due to Steam Play (Proton) issues in the past week."

I think the word abound makes no sense and should be just removed? Also, maybe rewrite into several smaller sentences.

[jeisom]

7700 XT was pretty nice in regards to having low thermals with moderate performance.

NGL, I think it should be priced down to $399 because, at $449 vs $499, the extra $50 is rather moot regardless if you're broke AF and have to save for months on end or have money to spend and splurge. As someone in the broke AF category, I have a bit of a bias due to paying $330 for a new 6700 XT from Newegg 9 months back, which is what they're selling for now if y'all need a new GPU, and how I don't think 36% increase in price will net a 36% increase in performance.

They are definitely looking at an upsell, though performance-wise I think they are space about right as well based on the per $ performance. Performance was further apart than I was expecting based on the paper specs. Prices will come down in a few weeks or months depending on how sales go and if nv lowers prices on current similarly priced items.

[Melcar]

I must be getting old and cantankerous, or maybe I have been out of work for so long that I have a different appreciation for the value of a dollar, but i can't bring myself to spend close to $500 for a video card, or any individual component for that matter, just to play video games.

I tend to be a practical man and as such, I would rather buy an XBOX or PS5 for gaming than build a gaming PC.

I also realize that the human eye of even highly trained Air Force pilots can't see more than 120 fps, so telling me that a card can achieve 300+ fps, especially when the refresh rate on most monitors is capped well below that number, so even if a card is rendering that many frames, it is still prevented from displaying them.

All in all, gaming cards have been a waste of money for a while, I would say more than 2 decades, going back all the way to the Geforce 2 Ultra.

Now if i was making money with the card, for instance doing 3d rendering, or scientific analysis, then I could see spending that much cash for a video card.

But for gaming? No way.

$500 is the new normal for "mid-range" cards now. Prices are not going to come down, unless consumers just flat out stop buying cards. I write "mid-range" because I don't consider cards like the 6750XT and similar "mid-range", and definitely don't consider cards like the 6650XT "entry level". Consumerist focused sites (like review magazines and streaming channels) have constantly shifted the performance and price segments (encouraged by nvidia and AMD). Gaming cards have always been a luxury.

[r1348]

No Nvidia 4070 which is the direct competitor, and no RDNA2 cards in the benchmarks...

[bernstein]

$500 is the new normal for "mid-range" cards now. Prices are not going to come down, unless consumers just flat out stop buying cards. I write "mid-range" because I don't consider cards like the 6750XT and similar "mid-range", and definitely don't consider cards like the 6650XT "entry level". Consumerist focused sites (like review magazines and streaming channels) have constantly shifted the performance and price segments (encouraged by nvidia and AMD). Gaming cards have always been a luxury.

RX 6700 XT ***is*** midrange, as it‘s essentially the gpu of a PS5 !!!
Real shame there is no RDNA3 card that fills that spot. I know this is due to rdna3 performing at AMDs lowest expectations, so Navi33 isn’t up to snuff, but still…

[Michael]

No Nvidia 4070 which is the direct competitor, and no RDNA2 cards in the benchmarks...

As mentioned several times in article, RTX 40 was limited by hardware that I have... Thus no 4070 / 4060 Ti / etc. And prior gen cards are coming in a larger comparison.

[NovenTheHero]

I have been out of the AMD GPU game since the ATI 9800 pro. Do these new cards still need the proprietary drivers like of old and like the NVIDIA ones?

[ResponseWriter]

Michael, thanks for the benchmarks. Looking forward to the comparison with 6800 XT, not that I plan to upgrade just yet. Will 4K tests be included next time? I realise these cards are targeted at 1440p but some tests appear CPU bound.

[bug77]

All Nvidia cards could be very well omitted and I wouldn't care because they are no more than bricks on Linux, but at least AMD's past generation should have been present.

Must be one hell of a brick I got here. It lets me see things you post on the Internet...

[bridgman]

I have been out of the AMD GPU game since the ATI 9800 pro. Do these new cards still need the proprietary drivers like of old and like the NVIDIA ones?

I believe all of the tests in today's article used upstream open source drivers.

AMD developers provide most of the new hardware support for those upstream drivers - all components except the radv/Mesa Vulkan driver - while other improvements come from a mix of AMD and community developers.

We also provide pre-built open source drivers for slower moving distros (the ones that are not likely to refresh from upstream in time) and those packaged drivers include an install-time option to choose closed-source userspace drivers aimed at the workstation market.

For gaming, and increasingly for most applications the open source / upstream drivers tend to be preferred, and those are generally what Michael tests with at launch.