Radeon ROCm 5.0 Released With Some RDNA2 GPU Support

[boboviz]

So OpenCL is basically a dead technology now. Nvidia is still putting all new features into CUDA and leaving OpenCL at 3.0 (aka 1.2). AMD is focusing on ROCm runtime and multiple tools that make it easier to port CUDA code sets to the AMD stack. I expect that OpenCL runtime support will continue for a long time, but the language itself will not advance in any meaningful way going forward.

I think the way OpenCl will survive is C++ for OpenCl.
Why?
Because it seems that there is a great interesting for C++ in heterogeneous computation and there is a lot of signs, like SYCL, CUDA C++, AMD Hip, etc
Seems that all gpu (and not only gpu) languages will be differen "dialects" of C++

Maybe i'm wrong

[boboviz]

ROCm on consumer GPUs beyond GFX9 (Vega) seems to be a WIP, that is not a great signal to consumers. I know they are prioritizing their server parts and GFX9 is the technical base there, but still. Consumer care about the support of their GPUs on day one (or when they can get their hands on one of these nowadays) - and not two years after release.

I agree, but....how many consumers make gpgpu stuff on their home gpu?

[Steffo]

Not sure what you want to do.
I run latest kernel and mesa (arch) and I have ROCM + pytorch, torchvision, torchtext, torchaudio (with ROCM support) running fine.
Mesa is for 3d applications, ROCM general purpose compute on GPU
I guess your question should have in scope only AMDGPU-PRO and MESA in parallel, not ROCM

This answers my question, thx! :-)

[piorunz]

Must have been referring to the homemade AMD archive: https://repo.radeon.com/rocm/apt/5.0...r/rocm-opencl/

Thanks, if there any instructions how to install it on Debian Testing? I tried a few .debs and dependencies escalated quickly to a package which is not present in AMD repository, nor in my system.

[Grinness]

Can the AMD mesa driver run in parallel to AMDGPU-PRO when I want to use ROCm for i. e. PyTorch?

Not sure what you want to do.
I run latest kernel and mesa (arch) and I have ROCM + pytorch, torchvision, torchtext, torchaudio (with ROCM support) running fine.
Mesa is for 3d applications, ROCM general purpose compute on GPU
I guess your question should have in scope only AMDGPU-PRO and MESA in parallel, not ROCM

[Maxzor]

Uhm, what?

"You have searched for packages that names contain rocm-opencl in all suites, all sections, and all architectures.
Sorry, your search gave no results"

Must have been referring to the homemade AMD archive: https://repo.radeon.com/rocm/apt/5.0...r/rocm-opencl/

[piorunz]

Yeah, should work!? Just do

sudo apt install rocm-opencl

only, and "upstream kernel" of course.

Uhm, what?

"You have searched for packages that names contain rocm-opencl in all suites, all sections, and all architectures.
Sorry, your search gave no results"

[SvenK]

It would be nice if we could manage it to port rendering from opencl/CUDA/HIP to vulkan/opengl compute shaders, than at least some parts are where they should be.

[Maxzor]

Can the AMD mesa driver run in parallel to AMDGPU-PRO when I want to use ROCm for i. e. PyTorch?

I would enjoy finding a good explanation about how the two stacks get along. AFAIK they don't interact.

[Steffo]

Can the AMD mesa driver run in parallel to AMDGPU-PRO when I want to use ROCm for i. e. PyTorch?