Open-Source Intel & Radeon GPU Drivers Ready With Day-One Support For Vulkan 1.3

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  • qarium
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    Originally posted by tildearrow View Post
    And you forgot that:
    - Phoronix isn't the world. :P
    - The world technically is powered by Linux, with at least 40% of servers running it
    ...so your argument is invalid.
    Is it me or am I losing to birdie?
    Birdie's commens generally makes no sense on a linux focused website like phoronix.com...

    you could see more posts like birdie on a general tech side ...

    he basically always tell us people that we are not important and that we are losers on the market and so one.

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  • qarium
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    Originally posted by bridgman View Post
    At the risk of nit-picking, that would be 80% of desktop discrete GPUs - most GPUs sold are integrated these days. Latest numbers from JPR for total GPU sales show roughly 17% AMD, 68% Intel and 15% NVidia.
    Obviously that is more Windows than Linux, but within the Linux world it does imply something like 85% open source vs 15% closed source.
    https://wccftech.com/gpu-market-grew...raphics-share/
    What the numbers above do not show is the impact of idle integrated GPUs, ie on a desktop system if someone has both iGPU and dGPU they would probably just be running the dGPU, which would mean the numbers shift up a bit for closed source.
    in my point of view AMD honestly has the best overall market position...
    yes one can say AMD (5950X) lose in the average overall phoronix.com score to intel 12900K but if we also consider it is 141watt TDP vs 272watt TDP the "minimal" win of intel is not a big lose.
    but on the GPU side AMD looks very good with the opensource driver int he last benchmarks the 6800XT outperform a 3090,,,

    even intel with their iGPUs and now upcoming ARC GPUs look much better than NVIDIA...

    Nvidia is the clear loser in the overall market...
    their try to catch up by buying ARM failes... and honestly without a X86_64 license they can not compete in the market...
    Seperate -CPU and GPU really comes to an end it is all SOC now like playstation5 ... or the very good AMD rembrand APUs

    Nvidia failed to enter the x86_64 cpu market with the patent time out of SSE2... next date to enter x86 cpu market is 2026 with the end of SSE3...

    now Nvidia failed with ARM,,,, maybe they should Focus on RISC-V or OpenPOWER...

    but i really think with GPU alone a company like Nvidia will die... you need both today CPU and GPU and put this in a SOC..

    Nvidia looks much better on windows than on linux... but i bet all my money on the rise of linux with steam deck and other players in the linux market.

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  • Dasein
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    RADV & Intel sent in the MR for Mesa 22... Still no word on Nvidia?


    I wonder if they're busy debating which GPUs should get support for it, AMD surely doesn't have the resources NV have for the non-mainstream OS's?

    (Anything that's not linked to MS or Apple)

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  • GreatLord
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    Mesa matrix ( https://mesamatrix.net ) say radv is only vulkan 1.1 it missing one ext for vulkan 1.2
    I hope they update the info so it say vulkan 1.2 and 1.3 soon

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  • jacob
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    Originally posted by tildearrow View Post
    - The world technically is powered by Linux, with at least 40% of servers running it
    Plus at least 80% mobile devices running it, probably close to 100% recent TVs, IoT devices and "smart" stuff of any kind running it, untold percentages of car and airplane infotainment systems running it, etc etc etc.

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  • geearf
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    Originally posted by bridgman View Post

    That's a different kind of "look into it", ie "see if I can get the policy changed". That usually takes a lot longer.
    Oh I see, thank you!
    Though weren't you saying back then that it might have been an accident and not removed on purpose? I may be wrong though.

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  • tildearrow
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    Originally posted by birdie View Post

    Considering that close to 80% of desktop GPUs are NVIDIA's it's far more important than the news about Open Source drivers. It helps to remember that the world doesn't revolve around Linux let alone open source drivers for Linux.
    And you forgot that:

    - Phoronix isn't the world. :P
    - The world technically is powered by Linux, with at least 40% of servers running it

    ...so your argument is invalid.

    Is it me or am I losing to birdie?
    Last edited by tildearrow; 26 January 2022, 03:08 PM.

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  • bridgman
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    Originally posted by geearf View Post
    How about for ROCm? You told me you'd look into it but then I'm not sure what happened. :_)
    That's a different kind of "look into it", ie "see if I can get the policy changed". That usually takes a lot longer.

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  • geearf
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    Originally posted by bridgman View Post

    Two part answer:

    - for Polaris, I'm not sure but will try to find out
    How about for ROCm? You told me you'd look into it but then I'm not sure what happened. :_)

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  • bridgman
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    Originally posted by Krteq View Post
    Does it means that older GCN based cards won't be supported at all even if they are perfectly capable to support Vulkan 1.3?
    Two part answer:

    - anything older than Polaris has been dropped from Windows drivers and hence from code-shared driver components like closed source OpenGL, closed source Vulkan and AMDVLK

    - for Polaris, I'm not sure but will try to find out

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