Open-Source Intel & Radeon GPU Drivers Ready With Day-One Support For Vulkan 1.3

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  • bridgman
    AMD Linux
    • Oct 2007
    • 13188

    #21
    Originally posted by birdie View Post
    Considering that close to 80% of desktop GPUs are NVIDIA's it's far more important than the news about Open Source drivers. It helps to remember that the world doesn't revolve around Linux let alone open source drivers for Linux.
    At the risk of nit-picking, that would be 80% of desktop discrete GPUs - most GPUs sold are integrated these days. Latest numbers from JPR for total GPU sales show roughly 17% AMD, 68% Intel and 15% NVidia.

    Obviously that is more Windows than Linux, but within the Linux world it does imply something like 85% open source vs 15% closed source.

    https://wccftech.com/gpu-market-grew...raphics-share/

    What the numbers above do not show is the impact of idle integrated GPUs, ie on a desktop system if someone has both iGPU and dGPU they would probably just be running the dGPU, which would mean the numbers shift up a bit for closed source.
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    • Krteq
      Junior Member
      • Oct 2017
      • 19

      #22
      Good to see you here John

      Could you please explain these words from AMD representative in Khronos Vulkan 1.3 blogpost?
      “AMD is pleased to announce that we expect to support for both Vulkan 1.3 and the Vulkan Roadmap 2022 profile on all AMD Radeon™ RX Vega Series and AMD RDNA™ architecture-enabled graphics cards. AMD Radeon Software beta drivers are available for developers today, with support in the final drivers expected in the next few months. The Vulkan Working Group taking the initiative to standardize hardware features across devices is an important step towards providing consistent support for developers across key markets, and we believe this will ultimately translate to better developer and end-user experiences,” said Andrej Zdravkovic, Senior Vice President, Software Development, AMD.
      Does it means that older GCN based cards won't be supported at all even if they are perfectly capable to support Vulkan 1.3?

      Thx for reply

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      • Etherman
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2017
        • 296

        #23
        Originally posted by birdie View Post

        Considering that close to 80% of desktop GPUs are NVIDIA's it's far more important than the news about Open Source drivers. It helps to remember that the world doesn't revolve around Linux let alone open source drivers for Linux.
        This article revolves around open source driver for Linux.

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        • bridgman
          AMD Linux
          • Oct 2007
          • 13188

          #24
          Originally posted by Krteq View Post
          Does it means that older GCN based cards won't be supported at all even if they are perfectly capable to support Vulkan 1.3?
          Two part answer:

          - anything older than Polaris has been dropped from Windows drivers and hence from code-shared driver components like closed source OpenGL, closed source Vulkan and AMDVLK

          - for Polaris, I'm not sure but will try to find out
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          • geearf
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2011
            • 2154

            #25
            Originally posted by bridgman View Post

            Two part answer:

            - for Polaris, I'm not sure but will try to find out
            How about for ROCm? You told me you'd look into it but then I'm not sure what happened. :_)

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            • bridgman
              AMD Linux
              • Oct 2007
              • 13188

              #26
              Originally posted by geearf View Post
              How about for ROCm? You told me you'd look into it but then I'm not sure what happened. :_)
              That's a different kind of "look into it", ie "see if I can get the policy changed". That usually takes a lot longer.
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              • tildearrow
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2016
                • 7100

                #27
                Originally posted by birdie View Post

                Considering that close to 80% of desktop GPUs are NVIDIA's it's far more important than the news about Open Source drivers. It helps to remember that the world doesn't revolve around Linux let alone open source drivers for Linux.
                And you forgot that:

                - Phoronix isn't the world. :P
                - The world technically is powered by Linux, with at least 40% of servers running it

                ...so your argument is invalid.

                Is it me or am I losing to birdie?
                Last edited by tildearrow; 26 January 2022, 03:08 PM.

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                • geearf
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2011
                  • 2154

                  #28
                  Originally posted by bridgman View Post

                  That's a different kind of "look into it", ie "see if I can get the policy changed". That usually takes a lot longer.
                  Oh I see, thank you!
                  Though weren't you saying back then that it might have been an accident and not removed on purpose? I may be wrong though.

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                  • jacob
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2010
                    • 2973

                    #29

                    Originally posted by tildearrow View Post
                    - The world technically is powered by Linux, with at least 40% of servers running it
                    Plus at least 80% mobile devices running it, probably close to 100% recent TVs, IoT devices and "smart" stuff of any kind running it, untold percentages of car and airplane infotainment systems running it, etc etc etc.

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                    • GreatLord
                      Junior Member
                      • Dec 2016
                      • 38

                      #30
                      Mesa matrix ( https://mesamatrix.net ) say radv is only vulkan 1.1 it missing one ext for vulkan 1.2
                      I hope they update the info so it say vulkan 1.2 and 1.3 soon

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