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  • #11
    Originally posted by Qaridarium

    AMD should support [email protected] to bring a FSR AMD FidelityFX super resolution benchmark to linux and phoronix.com

    to proof that the 6600XT has much better FPS per dollar Ratio than most people believe. ''

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    right now a 6600XT is 470€ in germany...

    FSR should improve the FPS/dollar ratio by 20-30%...

    we just need 1 game with FSR support on PTS to show the effect.

    Phoronix could build a hard test with unity3d?

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    • #12
      Originally posted by oleid View Post
      This is really astonishing. Who would have thought the free driver would become that good?
      May these benchmarks serve as a reminder to those Linux users still on nvda. It's clear as day which company is more dedicated to the FOSS community.

      How about running these same benchmarks on the nvda side, comparing the closed proprietary driver with the Nouveau driver? I'm guessing Nouveau won't be winning any benchmarks...

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      • #13
        Originally posted by rabcor View Post
        What does the pro version even exist for? Just so people can play quake ii rtx demo?

        Isn't it just a duplication of effort? They should just scrap the pro driver and focus on mesa.
        Usually the AMD proprietary drivers exists for workstation-like jobs, where certifications and repeatability of results is important.

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        • #14
          You know what my biggest takeaway from this article was? That Quake2, which is now very nearly *25* years old, with its environments and models that are literally 2 to 3 orders of magnitude simpler than modern assets, needs a $1500 card to run at 60FPS (which it used to do on a TNT), or a $1000 card to run at the same framerate that the *software* renderer did back then.

          That's how far along the RTRT road we are...

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Qaridarium

            AMD should support [email protected]
            Period.
            I mean, I don't check EVERY hardware website around here, but from the half a dozen I consult regularly and the ~20 I sometimes check when a particular hardware piece interests me, Phoronix has by far been the most extensive and fair information provider, both in quantity and quality.

            A bit of cash without any strings attached of course would be far earned in my opinion and would benefit everyone.

            (Edit: just to be clear, I think the same would be true for any hardware provider Michael surveys regularly, and possibly some Linux distribs too *cough Ubuntu / Red Hat cough*. Maybe that's the case and I'd be glad of it for Michael though )

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            • #16
              All of the benchmarks were running off Ubuntu 20.04 LTS. Following some recent Radeon Software for Linux Vulkan driver tests on Ubuntu 21.04, I was informed by AMD there are currently some known performance issues when using their Vulkan driver in a Wayland environment. With time their Wayland issue should be addressed while for now they recommend users stick to running the packaged driver on the supported enterprise Linux distributions.
              Well, that's interesting that they tracked down the issues in Michael's last tests, at least, even if it hasn't actually been fixed yet.

              I do wonder what % of consumers actually run a "supported enterprise Linux distribution" though. Makes the driver pretty hard to recommend to anyone other than the corporate situations I assume the driver is targeted at. Nobody is reinstalling their OS just to use this driver.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post
                I do wonder what % of consumers actually run a "supported enterprise Linux distribution" though. Makes the driver pretty hard to recommend to anyone other than the corporate situations I assume the driver is targeted at. Nobody is reinstalling their OS just to use this driver.
                Also, RHEL 8 is supported and defaults to Wayland.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by smitty3268 View Post

                  Well, that's interesting that they tracked down the issues in Michael's last tests, at least, even if it hasn't actually been fixed yet.

                  I do wonder what % of consumers actually run a "supported enterprise Linux distribution" though. Makes the driver pretty hard to recommend to anyone other than the corporate situations I assume the driver is targeted at. Nobody is reinstalling their OS just to use this driver.
                  In a corporation your ether running a way smaller card because people don't need the ooomph. Or you running a way bigger card because compared to the cost of having some one that needs the hardware sitting around waiting for tasks to complete is trivial compared to the cost of the card.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Citan View Post

                    Period.
                    I mean, I don't check EVERY hardware website around here, but from the half a dozen I consult regularly and the ~20 I sometimes check when a particular hardware piece interests me, Phoronix has by far been the most extensive and fair information provider, both in quantity and quality.

                    A bit of cash without any strings attached of course would be far earned in my opinion and would benefit everyone.

                    (Edit: just to be clear, I think the same would be true for any hardware provider Michael surveys regularly, and possibly some Linux distribs too *cough Ubuntu / Red Hat cough*. Maybe that's the case and I'd be glad of it for Michael though )
                    Wouldn't that be a conflict of interest? If companies were paying Michael, I think that would give the impression of quid pro quo even if it was innocent.

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                    • #20
                      Quake2, which is now very nearly *25* years old, with its environments and models that are literally 2 to 3 orders of magnitude simpler than modern assets
                      You are forgetting that to rasterize a million polygons you need 10x the power of 100 000 polygons. Meanwhile 10x polygons require 10% more power for a pure RT renderer. It is a log scale vs exponential scale.

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