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  • jaxa
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    Originally posted by t.s. View Post

    It depends on bandwith. Ryzen 4 based APU will have much success than their sisters, I think. DDR5 with huge bandwith, X3D, and so on.
    Rembrandt (Zen 3, possibly Zen 3+) will use DDR5 and LPDDR5. Most people are assuming that at least Rembrandt will not get 3D cache due to it being expensive, and that some desktop halo CPUs (based on Zen 3 like the prototype shown off) will get it early next year. Maybe just a refresh of the 5800X, 5900X, and 5950X.

    A Rembrandt desktop APU with 12 CUs and DDR5 will be impressive, although it won't hold a candle to the Xbox Series X and PS5 which are basically using giant RDNA2-based APUs.

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  • t.s.
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    Originally posted by jaxa View Post



    Radeon Vega 8 (Cezanne) appears to be on par with GT 1030 performance. Sure, the 5700G with full 8 CU count is the most high-end Cezanne APU as well as the world's fastest desktop APU, but you could already get that in a $550 pre-built system.

    It looks like an up to 12 CU RDNA2 successor could offer around double the performance next year. So around GTX 1050 performance in the 5700G equivalent, and maybe GT 1030 or better in the 5300G equivalent and the slowest mobile Rembrandt APUs.

    On the Intel side, UHD 750 is pretty bad. If they tripled the 32 execution units to match the top Iris Xe graphics in Tiger Lake, it would look a lot better. Intel will have another swing at it with Alder Lake in Q4.
    It depends on bandwith. Ryzen 4 based APU will have much success than their sisters, I think. DDR5 with huge bandwith, X3D, and so on.

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  • jaxa
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    Originally posted by t.s. View Post

    Nope. Intel and AMD iGPU is still halfway from 1030. Just check ryzen 4350G or newest i3. Unless you go to higher end APU. But then, people who use 1030 is people that buy i3 level CPU.


    Radeon Vega 8 (Cezanne) appears to be on par with GT 1030 performance. Sure, the 5700G with full 8 CU count is the most high-end Cezanne APU as well as the world's fastest desktop APU, but you could already get that in a $550 pre-built system.

    It looks like an up to 12 CU RDNA2 successor could offer around double the performance next year. So around GTX 1050 performance in the 5700G equivalent, and maybe GT 1030 or better in the 5300G equivalent and the slowest mobile Rembrandt APUs.

    On the Intel side, UHD 750 is pretty bad. If they tripled the 32 execution units to match the top Iris Xe graphics in Tiger Lake, it would look a lot better. Intel will have another swing at it with Alder Lake in Q4.

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  • t.s.
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    Originally posted by Rabiator View Post

    Meanwhile the GT 1030 is obsolete, as both AMD's and Intel's IGP have reached a performance that makes a GT 1030 redundant. At best, it might have a role in systems that have neither IGP nor a need for fast graphics.
    Nope. Intel and AMD iGPU is still halfway from 1030. Just check ryzen 4350G or newest i3. Unless you go to higher end APU. But then, people who use 1030 is people that buy i3 level CPU.

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  • jaxa
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    The Rembrandt successor to the Ryzen 7 5700G should be interesting. Likely 12 RDNA2 CUs, maybe slightly better CPU performance than the 5800X at a lower TDP.

    Originally posted by Rabiator View Post
    Rumors on Twitter suggest that "Beige Goby" will have 14 CU, 4 GB RAM and a 64 bit memory interface. That is a low end card by 2021 standards, performance might be halfway between the best AMD APUs and a RX 5500XT. Also, TDP might be below 75W so it can also fill that niche.
    Up to 16 CUs. 14 CUs would be the really cheap model. And if Rembrandt has 12 CUs, Navi 24's advantage would be that it can clock higher (75W all to itself).

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  • pal666
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    Originally posted by zxy_thf View Post
    Fortunately I didn't sell my retired graphics cards so I can at least keep my computer working when some card went wrong...
    i've just checked, used old 1gb videocards are being sold for $15 here, i.e. it shouldn't be that hard to keep computer working

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  • Adarion
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    Not getting excited about any GPU news right now. For once I am currently fine, but on the other hand: Show me any available GPU APU or something like that in a reasonable price range. It's all COVID excuses and fvcking miners. Apparently there is even a HDD shortage for some Chia bullsh1t crypro stuff right now. When will people learn that crypto currencies are silly and just a horrible waste of environmental resources?

    (If they'd at least calculate something useful, molecule foldings against cancer or something, whatever.)

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  • skeevy420
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    Originally posted by Aryma View Post
    they don't have any plan for low end GPU like nvidia gt 1030 or 1050
    Like means above

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  • skeevy420
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    Originally posted by misGnomer View Post

    You're not alone. The unavailability of the more affordable (and lower power consumption!) GPUs does make especially the higher-end Ryzen APUs more attractive, as if they weren't on the basis of Zen prowess already.
    And they really aren't all that bad. Mine handles a fully flashy 4K Plasma desktop running stuff like Firefox, LibreOffice, SMPlayer, Yakuake, Kate just as well as my dGPU. I don't notice a difference between the iGPU and dGPU until I try to play games. If a person isn't a gamer, video editor, or something along those lines, APUs, especially 3000/4000 and up, should be fully sufficient for their needs.

    I don't recommend trying to play the newest of games on it in 1080p+ high, but it holds its own in regards to emulation and plays some newer stuff around 720p-1080p with fudged around settings...and integer scaling is your friend with APUs (especially if you have a hires display). IMHO, AMD should ship an integer scaling to resolution spreadsheet with them as well as implement some sort of border overlay ability like emulators have. I think it'd be cool to replace the black border with an old wood grain TV box or a performance metric overlay.

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  • misGnomer
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    Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post

    Tell me about it. I quit playing games in actual 4K just so I'm not pushing my 580 too hard. I integer scale 1080p into 4K. When I built my current system in February I bought a grey market R5 4650G APU just in case my GPU dies because I know I'm not going to pay the prices they cost now. I'm glad I bought my APU when I did. $290 after taxes and shipping. They're $300 and up before all that now.
    You're not alone. The unavailability of the more affordable (and lower power consumption!) GPUs does make especially the higher-end Ryzen APUs more attractive, as if they weren't on the basis of Zen prowess already.

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