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The Qt Company Is Tomorrow Moving Qt 5.15 To Its Commercial-Only LTS Phase

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  • #31
    Originally posted by Awesomeness View Post
    Too bad they said nothing back when the plans were announced. I've seen so many community developers saying that this move doesn't matter because FOSS devs and users use the latest anyway and don't care about LTS.
    The move doesn't matter in the long run, but they chose to enforce it at the worst possible moment: just before transitioning to a new major version. And while the new version is still incomplete and expected to remain that way for the better part of the year.

    Oh well, nothing I can do, but wait and see how this plays out.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by 9Strike View Post
      I never liked Qt because of it's controlled by a single company and here we see why that is bad again.
      Control is no reason to keep your distance, imho. It does take away rights from the original contributor, but it does make steering the whole project easier.
      Good or bad steering decisions can and will be made regardless of who controls the project.

      Out of curiosity, if I contribute a new file to a non-CLA project and then 10 other people fix my crap almost completely rewriting it, who owns the file in the end?

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      • #33
        Originally posted by bug77 View Post
        Out of curiosity, if I contribute a new file to a non-CLA project and then 10 other people fix my crap almost completely rewriting it, who owns the file in the end?
        The legal answer is "It depends". The details always matter, and no simple abstract question can result in anything more than such a vague non-answer.

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        • #34
          Qt 6.0 seems to be like KDE 4.0. - Not ready and only a preview version.

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          • #35
            bad news for qt products but ok they are almost banckrup and need money but I doubt they will win something with this. Looks the only openoffice story or something like maybe the community should go with gtk4, some agreement who make everybody happy and put all the resourges in something who is not control by one person and use the toolkit to make the desktop, ofc gnome xfce and others is using but why kde and other don't use it too? with this qt policies or they fork (I doubt they have the ppl for that to less people and none of big companies in linux use it), or they rebase their desktop for gtk+4 and joint forces and make a strong new kde and others desktops, is not easy but maybe is the solution because with this lockup kde will that more than year of delay with wayland and another new tech from qt

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            • #36
              Originally posted by [email protected] View Post

              No, it's not. You still need to change your nickname to Garidarium.
              haha LOL best joke in years. lets also chance startrek Q into startrek G
              and Q anon of 8yun into G anon of 8yun...
              and lets change Q clearance into G Clearance...
              now Donald Trump stop writing -Q into the air he now write G into the air...

              and Qanon – Where we go one we go all is changing to: Ganon - Where we gnome one we gnome all.
              Phantom circuit Sequence Reducer Dyslexia

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              • #37
                Just fork it and forget.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by JackLilhammers View Post
                  Gtk is not really comparable to Qt. To be clear, Gtk is a perfectly fine gui toolkit, but Qt is not just a gui toolkit.
                  Exactly. Qt exists at least partially because C++ did not have the necessary level of platform libraries/extensions and abstractions that companies needed. C++ has come a long way, and at least *some* of the Qt extensions are now part of of the C++ standard (there has been, as mentioned elsewhere, companies that have leveraged those C++ capablities to no longer need some of the Qt-isms). However, as Qt has been an attractive nuisance since forever, lots of companies/projects have lots of Qt-ism in the code base, and it can take a long time to migrate away even if there is a will to do so (and since the C++ "equivalents" are not always one-for-one replacements some breakage will likely occur during shipment). Qt itself is migrating to the C++ standard capabilities (sometimes with a minor syntactic wrapper for compatibility) where it is trivial to accomplish, but they, too, have built their own world inside Qt.

                  If you want to use a real life equivalency, it took Amazon, a very large company with essentially unlimited resources and expertice, at least half a decade to eliminate all the pieces of the Oracle Database from their core systems, so even those companies and projects who may choose to exit the Qt ecosystem will likely end up taking quite some time to do it, and that presumes it is a priority over new features/functionality/revenue.

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                  • #39
                    time to get behind copper spice. qt has already been forked to qt-libre, its called copper spice. no, its not qt4. saying its based on qt4 is like saying qt5 is based on qt4. getting rid of moc doesnt make for worse code, it makes for better code. getting rid of moc is a pretty sweet evolution they were able to achieve by converting qt to modern c++. this also allowed them to create a more efficient implementation of some things like signals/slots. really, the stuff you are likely to want and hope for out of qt is already being done with copper spice. its kind of a shame it doesnt get more attention.

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                    • #40
                      Things would not work so well to undermine a fine open source project even if it was a thoroughly and thoughtfully elaborated EEE plan by Microsoft. What a spectacular way to shot themselves on all foot.

                      Dang, I really like Qt, shame on whoever chose this chain of actions.

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