Ray-Tracing Support For AMDGPU LLVM Back-End Lands For RDNA 2

[pal666]

Sorry no, this is bullshit. Intel and NVIDIA do their work well ahead of time and have day 1 support.

what are you smoking? novideo doesn't have any support at all. intel has trivial hardware

Why should we Linux users settle for less when other companies can get their support ready in time?

i don't understand why any user will buy hardware before seeing its review on his os

Don't give me any shitty excuses, the wya business works is that you invest first and then get a return on it. AMD doesn't tell Windows gamers and users to buy their GPUs with no proper support for months, because they'd make no sales and would pretty much go extinct.

because they make x100 windows sale they have x100 windows driver devs compared to linux. you paid for 1% of driver, you got much more than 1% of driver

[pal666]

Amd and intel stop supporting their produts in less than 2 years, they only work because some folks in community continue the job

moron, why folks in community can't continue novideo job? because novideo didn't do any job to begin with

[ColdDistance]

Month or two from release date lack of support is ok. Half of year is total ridiculous and saying to wait for support for half outdated hardware as next hardware release is coming is totally idiotic. And it's not normal if it is about a mainstream GPUs, other thing if its a minor device with will be used by 0,0001% users. You can wait a year even.

A good GPU is not outdated one year after the release. Look at the RX 480 and the GTX 1060, both were released in 2016 and they are starting to be really outdated this year, and I know some people who tried to buy a Vega 56 or 64 in the earlier months of 2020 because they aged very well, even compared to a RTX 2070 or the RTX 2080 in some cases.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5DTxEr9CaHI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6RfJoH1N6IQ

By other hand, I know that the support for AMD GPUs starts in Linux far behind Windows, but the experience is not brilliant with drivers for Windows in the first months.

[crt0mega]

I've been a Vega FE early adopter.

[Girolamo_Cavazzoni]

i doubt they offer mesa packages and i'm not going to download drivers from vendor website, it's job for windows users

I wouldn't do that either since I'm not an early adopter but some people are and want working drivers from the beginning. It's the best AMD can offer them and in my humble opinion that suffices.

And yes, their package contains mesa.

[Sevard]

actually it's not. polaris was in good shape very quickly. navi is an outlier

Well, but Polaris wasn't really new architecture. It was next iteration of GCN. There were some changes, but it's not completely new architecture. RDNA is something much different than GCN, and most likely changes between RDNA and RDNA are also quite big.

[pal666]

Well, but Polaris wasn't really new architecture. It was next iteration of GCN.

just like rdna 2 is next iteration of rdna

[pal666]

And yes, their package contains mesa.

without vulkan, right?

[Sevard]

just like rdna 2 is next iteration of rdna

We will see. But difference between RDNA2 and RDNA will be most likely much more noticeable than difference between GCN4 and GCN3.

[MadeUpName]

Keep in mind that there probably won't be RDNA2 cards available in quantity until Dec or early next year so they have time to get their drivers in shape. No matter which camp your in if you do any serious work on your graphics card it looks like this is a must upgrade cycle.