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There's A Proposal To Switch Fedora 33 On The Desktop To Using Btrfs

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  • #51
    Originally posted by 240Hz View Post
    BTRFS is extremly slow on the Desktop
    you are doing it wrong. i'm writing it from desktop on btrfs

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    • #52
      Originally posted by depau View Post
      it does not handle running out of space better.
      as a matter of fact, it does. not 100%, but much closer than in the past
      if you read change proposal, they want to use btrfs exactly because their ext4 users have too many out of space issues and btrfs will solve them with its superior featureset
      Last edited by pal666; 06-27-2020, 01:32 AM.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by CommunityMember View Post
        one of the strongest argument against btrfs being the default is the benchmarking results posted here on Phoronix showing that performance wise it is still beaten by ext4 for most use cases.
        phoronix benchmarks are irrelevant, because fedora will not replace ext4 with btrfs. it will replace lvm+ext4 with btrfs and it will keep databases and vm images in nocow files. and it will use btrfs snapshots vs lvm snapshots, which will make btrfs fastest

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        • #54
          Originally posted by ZeroPointEnergy View Post
          Why would anyone use a distro that doesn't support BTRFS in 2020?
          fedora supports it, it's just not default partitioning scheme

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          • #55
            Originally posted by MadeUpName View Post
            Ummm. F____ no!!!! While BTRFS has some merit on the server, on the desktop ... hell no. I spend about half my time on the desktop editing movies and pictures and a copy on write file system is shite for that.
            so grow some brain and do chattr +C on their directory

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            • #56
              Originally posted by Space Heater View Post
              I would have hoped they would talk about the real world performance differences between btrfs and ext4/xfs, and back that up with real benchmarks.
              ok, what is the real world speed of user recovering from failed upgrade due to exhaustion of free space in / volume?
              Originally posted by Space Heater View Post
              Also I'm not very comfortable with defaulting to a filesystem where a developer said this month
              then you should be comfortable that one of this proposal owners is btrfs developer, and he said that fedora should use btrfs by default

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              • #57
                Originally posted by profoundWHALE View Post
                If you want speed, then choose EXT4.

                If you want stability, choose XFS.

                If you want security and advanced features, choose ZFS.
                lol, btrfs is better on all those metrics. it is faster than ext4 if you know what you are doing, it is more stable than xfs(facebook statistics), and it has more advanced features than zfs from day one

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by profoundWHALE View Post
                  If you want security and advanced features, choose ZFS.
                  ZFS shills are even more cringe than Rust evangelists. It's just a mediocre CoW filesystem with a lot of undeserved hype.

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                  • #59
                    Using BTRFS for 6 years now, very happy. Just a little tired of an encryption shim, wish it would encrypt natively.

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by geearf View Post
                      Yes, for starters:
                      Compression? Yes.
                      Data checksum? Yes
                      True. Protection from silent data corruption (data checksum?) is another one. I only hope it's stable enough.

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