AMD Radeon Graphics Driver Amassing Improvements For Linux 5.8

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  • RBilettess
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2019
    • 36

    #11
    Originally posted by TemplarGR View Post

    What? AMD had decent opensource drivers since early 2010s dude. When the GTX 970 came out, AMD drivers were good enough. Now they are very good, and during the next one-two years they will surpass Nvidia in almost everything.

    It is just that people buy what brand they perceive as being quality. It doesn't matter if it really is, what matters is that they believe it is. People are morons, and that's a fact. It makes sense that most don't know how to shop. If people were intelligent Apple wouldn't exist in 2020.
    Do you mean decent opensource drivers in general or for gaming? Many games from Feral definitely preferred Nvidia, which was my motivation to change.
    Thanks for thinking of me and other people you don't know, as morons...

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    • puleglot
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2016
      • 229

      #12
      Originally posted by TemplarGR View Post
      What? AMD had decent opensource drivers since early 2010s dude.
      r600 driver is not good enough even today.

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      • Hibbelharry
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 627

        #13
        Originally posted by RBilettess View Post
        And those drivers were good for 3D games? I remember a terrible experience with X-COM: Enemy Unknown, so I switched to Nvidia and live was suddenly good for me.
        I tend to say "painless 3D" was a little bit later than that.

        Originally posted by Tuxee View Post
        Erm... My Navi 10 (RX 5700) experience on Ubuntu is, well, not exactly stellar.
        I agree, navi seems to still have issues, across all OS. AMD has resolved some in windows, but there are still issues left as far as I'm informed. I'm on Vega64 and Ryzen 3400G integrated at home, a lot of different others at office. My experiences have been good so far but Navi seems to be a special problem up to now. Let's hope AMD will get that sorted soon.

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        • skeevy420
          Senior Member
          • May 2017
          • 8635

          #14
          uid313 The problem with AMD is that their Linux users have to choose between older stuff that is known to work on Linux or gamble on new hardware with likely very iffy support.

          All one has to do is go back and look at old Phoronix articles between a GPU's release date and +6 months for plenty of real world examples and documentation of that.

          And TemplarGR isn't that far off when calling some of them morons; especially if they're running Ubuntu (even though they may have Pro available). When one has a newer AMD GPU then one almost exclusively has to run Arch, Manjaro, Fedora, Tumbleweed, or some other bleeding-edge distribution because those are the only places that will, maybe, have a working driver for a new AMD GPU or have the frameworks in place for the end-user to readily replace the kernel and other parts of the stack from git.

          AMDGPU-Pro only helps new cards so much and it is usually a moot after one or two kernel + drm releases after the GPU is released since, by then, the free driver is likely as good as or better than the Pro driver for the average desktop and/or gaming Linux user.

          Now, I love my AMD cards. Been using them for 8 years now and I'll use them for the next 8 years as long as things don't change. That said, I'd be a moron to buy one on day one because I'm a Linux user. I've been coming to Phoronix long enough to know better.

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          • skeevy420
            Senior Member
            • May 2017
            • 8635

            #15
            Originally posted by Hibbelharry View Post
            I agree, navi seems to still have issues, across all OS. AMD has resolved some in windows, but there are still issues left as far as I'm informed. I'm on Vega64 and Ryzen 3400G integrated at home, a lot of different others at office. My experiences have been good so far but Navi seems to be a special problem up to now. Let's hope AMD will get that sorted soon.
            I've noticed that too. Other cards before had their launch issues, but those were usually resolved timely enough.

            Navi, OTOH, seems to require an extra special timely enough. I'm assuming because it's a new architecture.

            There a reason I buy rebadged AMD GPUs....R7 260x, RX 580....wasn't nothing new about either of them on their release days.

            Michael, been a while that I had to bug you for an unapproved post.

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            • boxie
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2013
              • 1932

              #16
              Originally posted by RBilettess View Post
              Thanks for thinking of me and other people you don't know, as morons...
              As far as I understand it, you exercised your consumer rights and went with the things that worked for you and had a good experience on Linux with it - nicely done!

              ... and I can definitely understand the reluctance of AMD, you have had to have a pretty good tolerance to things not quite working right (maybe I should have waited 6 months on my purchases for the drivers to stabilize for Tonga and Vega...)

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              • cjcox
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2007
                • 502

                #17
                Originally posted by TemplarGR View Post
                What? AMD had decent opensource drivers since early 2010s dude.
                I think this one (though 2011+) from Phoronix helps a bit to shed light on things.


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                • mibo
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2007
                  • 315

                  #18
                  Originally posted by uid313 View Post
                  What is AMD doing wrong on Linux?
                  Linux users are going with Nvidia instead of AMD, despite AMD having open source code drivers.

                  According to the Folding@home stats, Nvidia is 16x more popular than AMD on Linux. Nvidia is more popular than AMD on Windows too, but by not such a big margin as on Linux.
                  A friend of mine is doing F@H. He buys Nvidia cards because Nvidia cards have a much better performance (points/day) when running the F@H clients. I don't know if it is because of optimisations for Nvidia GPU arch or using CUDA or whatever... But, from his explanations it seems absolutely clear that everybody wanting to do F@H or supporting a F@H team would do so with an Nvidia GPU.

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                  • Random_Jerk
                    Phoronix Member
                    • Feb 2019
                    • 83

                    #19
                    I don't understand any of the changes that are being incorporated into 5.8 for AMDGPU. Can anyone care to explain this in English?

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                    • tildearrow
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2016
                      • 7097

                      #20
                      Typo:

                      Originally posted by phoronix View Post
                      Enabling the the new VCN mode (VCN 2.5 DPG) for Arcturus.

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