Hello everybody!
I've chosen to write here, as I hope also ATI is reading the Phoronix Forums from time to time. I'm using Kubuntu 8.10 64 bit with ATI Catalyst 9.1 x86_64 Driver (updated today). I think the ATI drivers are really great compared to the state they were when I bought my first ATI graphic card. This was when ATI announced their new open source strategy. Since that time I was not able to play any game in wine. There was a issue regarding the blank/black screen after CTRL+ALT+BACKSP / Logging off, which was told to be fixed, but affected me until Q4 2008. I reported this issue to ATI by mail, but I didn't even get a default response like "Thanks for contacting, we will write you as soon bla bla bla...". Okay, this is fixed now, never mind.
But the other issue is still a pain in the ass, and I don't feel like ATi is interested in fixing this. Why can't I still play any game in Wine? (Serious Sam 2 works pretty "stable", but I got one freeze already after 3 hours of game play, so I still say no game is working) I tried loads of games, and the one I try every time a new driver is released is Counter Strike 1.6 through Steam. This _always_ worked for me using NVIDIA cards, and never did using ATI cards.
Look here: http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1163
And here: http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12929
Looking at "known issues" here https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206...t_91_linux.pdf ATI doesn't even accept this as a problem. Don't they talk to wine developers? They are seriously willing to help wherever they can!
The bug from winehq is opened since mid 2008 and is still not fixed nor addressed by ATI as it seems. I tested Sacred 1, Sacred 2, EVE Online, Counter Strike 1.6, Counter Strike Source, Serious Sam 2, Far Cry 2, Call of Duty 1 and none of them worked (All of them work on NVIDIA)! The workaround posted in the bug report is only delaying the freeze as it seems, after 10-20 minutes CS still freezes.
Lots of wining here, I know, but I reported both of the issues to ATI and never got reply. So what am I supposed to do? Sit and wait? This is my last call for attention before I switch back to NVIDIA (and that affects also all my "customers" which buy only computers suggested by me) I'm okay if ATI says, they accept this issue and try to fix it, but it needs more time. So put it into the "known issues" section and I'm fine. But total ignorance is not fair, is it? Ati could open a official Bugzilla, where people can get replies from ATI internals. People are willing to help, report and test.
Sorry again for wining, I hope you can understand what I want to tell. I'm glad for your comment/replies. What can I do to help?
Daniel
I've chosen to write here, as I hope also ATI is reading the Phoronix Forums from time to time. I'm using Kubuntu 8.10 64 bit with ATI Catalyst 9.1 x86_64 Driver (updated today). I think the ATI drivers are really great compared to the state they were when I bought my first ATI graphic card. This was when ATI announced their new open source strategy. Since that time I was not able to play any game in wine. There was a issue regarding the blank/black screen after CTRL+ALT+BACKSP / Logging off, which was told to be fixed, but affected me until Q4 2008. I reported this issue to ATI by mail, but I didn't even get a default response like "Thanks for contacting, we will write you as soon bla bla bla...". Okay, this is fixed now, never mind.
But the other issue is still a pain in the ass, and I don't feel like ATi is interested in fixing this. Why can't I still play any game in Wine? (Serious Sam 2 works pretty "stable", but I got one freeze already after 3 hours of game play, so I still say no game is working) I tried loads of games, and the one I try every time a new driver is released is Counter Strike 1.6 through Steam. This _always_ worked for me using NVIDIA cards, and never did using ATI cards.
Look here: http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1163
And here: http://bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12929
Looking at "known issues" here https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206...t_91_linux.pdf ATI doesn't even accept this as a problem. Don't they talk to wine developers? They are seriously willing to help wherever they can!
The bug from winehq is opened since mid 2008 and is still not fixed nor addressed by ATI as it seems. I tested Sacred 1, Sacred 2, EVE Online, Counter Strike 1.6, Counter Strike Source, Serious Sam 2, Far Cry 2, Call of Duty 1 and none of them worked (All of them work on NVIDIA)! The workaround posted in the bug report is only delaying the freeze as it seems, after 10-20 minutes CS still freezes.
Lots of wining here, I know, but I reported both of the issues to ATI and never got reply. So what am I supposed to do? Sit and wait? This is my last call for attention before I switch back to NVIDIA (and that affects also all my "customers" which buy only computers suggested by me) I'm okay if ATI says, they accept this issue and try to fix it, but it needs more time. So put it into the "known issues" section and I'm fine. But total ignorance is not fair, is it? Ati could open a official Bugzilla, where people can get replies from ATI internals. People are willing to help, report and test.
Sorry again for wining, I hope you can understand what I want to tell. I'm glad for your comment/replies. What can I do to help?
Daniel
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