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    Phoronix: Radeon Open-Source Linux Graphics Have A Wild Day For Mesa 19.3 From 8K Decode To ACO

    With Mesa 19.3 scheduled to be branched today and that marking the end of feature development for this next quarterly installment to these open-source Linux OpenGL/Vulkan drivers, developers are in a mad rush landing last minute improvements. The open-source Radeon driver support has a lot to stand in particular from today's work...

    http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...eon-30-October

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    A lot of that AMD stuff also requires being paired with the current AMD Staging kernel based on Linux 5.5. So, you know, the average LTS user will see these updates in 4 years or so.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post
      A lot of that AMD stuff also requires being paired with the current AMD Staging kernel based on Linux 5.5. So, you know, the average LTS user will see these updates in 4 years or so.
      That disingenuous... upgrading to a newer kernel is not that hard.

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      • #4
        Well but it is true.. that's why I don't understand desktop users (gamers) using debian/ubuntu with really old versions of the kernel and mesa..
        Just install Fedora or something that just keeps updating them.

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        • #5
          Typo:

          8K decide support

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          • #6
            Originally posted by cb88 View Post

            That disingenuous... upgrading to a newer kernel is not that hard.
            A bit, perhaps, but seeing as how the current Ubuntu LTS, 19.04, is using Mesa 19.0 and Linux 5.0 and Suse Leap 15.1 is at Linux 4.12 and Mesa 18.3...Since 1 to 2 is accurate and 3 is designated for the throwing of the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch*, I was left with 4.

            *Three shall be the number of the counting and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither shalt thou count two, excepting that thou then proceedeth to three. Five is right out.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by skeevy420 View Post
              A lot of that AMD stuff also requires being paired with the current AMD Staging kernel based on Linux 5.5. So, you know, the average LTS user will see these updates in 4 years or so.
              Average LTS user isn't using cutting edge hardware. Or to put it differently, those who are using cutting edge hardware are not using LTS kernels, so it's a non issue.

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              • #8
                For LTS and enterprise distros, AMD provides packaged drivers (both fully open and closed source addons for workstation).

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                • #9
                  8K HEVC and VP9 is also for Navi1x, see my comment here: https://www.reddit.com/r/hardware/co..._hevc/f5tsxvq/

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by shmerl View Post

                    Average LTS user isn't using cutting edge hardware. Or to put it differently, those who are using cutting edge hardware are not using LTS kernels, so it's a non issue.
                    Anecdotal, but look at ProtonDB & Valve's GitHub issue tracker or Valve's OS statistics showing, IIRC, around a 40/60 split between Ubuntu LTS and Arch/Manjaro/Non-LTS Ubuntu combined last month.

                    To wager a guess at the Valve OS numbers, perhaps because they're dual-booters or former Windows with have minimal Linux experience, Ubuntu LTS is praised by a lot of people so they start with that, and Windows users seem to think the proprietary drivers are necessary on Linux and Ubuntu LTS has those like agd5f mentioned.

                    Unless one is using bleeding-edge hardware like the 5700 XT, those drivers aren't necessary for Linux gamers....BUT that statement assumes two things: the person is either on a rolling-release or up-to-date distribution (Arch/Manjaro/Fedora/Tumbleweed/etc) and that they're capable of minor sys-admin work like maintaining PPAs or rolling their own software to keep their stack stable.

                    Fact is, a lot of Linux users these days are not like us who post on Phoronix and can backport from agd5f's repos (the AMDGPU gold mine; if you read this, thanks for everything you do) or install lots of AUR packages to get bleeding-edge hardware working on bleeding-edge Linux and that's where Ubuntu LTS, bleeding-edge hardware, and Valve's numbers start to make a lot of sense.

                    Look at it this way -- Unless one is a Linux Guru, they are not getting the 5700 XT running on any Linux distribution outside of those proprietary drivers unless they can either compile an AMD staging kernel (5.4 or higher AFAIK) or backport the AMDGPU staging driver back onto a stable kernel as well as updating to Mesa and LLVM from git at the same time....or use Ubuntu LTS, go to AMD.com, and click, click, click, password prompt, click, click, reboot, profit.
                    Last edited by skeevy420; 10-30-2019, 04:35 PM.

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