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  • justmy2cents
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    Originally posted by Master5000
    I pity the morons who got out and bought a RX 480 from AMD. Didn't you idiots learn that AMD has fallen behind badly in the last few years in both CPUs and GPUs? Wasn't it obvious that nvidia will have launched the 1060 in a few weeks to counter the 'threat' from AMD and that the 1060 will shit on the RX 480? I guess ideology trumps reality for many of you...
    i would guess a lot of people are like me. i will most probably end up replacing 3 NVidia cards i have right now for 480. performance is not important at all as long as i can play games at 1080p, which i already can on 750Ti. anything better than 750Ti is bonus, OSS drivers and wayland? much more important if difference between 1060 and 480 is only 20% as graphs show, i wouldn't be prepared to pay more than 120$ for NVidia. it is simply too expensive for something that requires blob to run.
    Last edited by justmy2cents; 07 July 2016, 06:20 PM.

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  • bridgman
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    Originally posted by bridgman View Post
    Bleah... two posts eaten, third post auto-moderated. I bet this post goes through just fine since it has no useful content...

    EDIT - yep
    Originally posted by duby229 View Post
    yeah, I replied to you twice and they got queued.
    This is worse than the Cone of Silence in the old Get Smart episodes...

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  • dungeon
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    Originally posted by johnc View Post

    My maths gave me 77.29% based on the numbers you provided.
    Both true, it depends how you like to present percentage diff, it can be sort of half lower and half bigger... half full or half empty - so, optimistic or pessimistic percentages

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  • johnc
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    Originally posted by dungeon View Post
    What differ there is that picture actually shows not 75% power efficiency, but around 45% (typo maybe ), while my percentage calculator over 185W vs 120W say that is 35%... I guess we all calculate percentages differently
    My maths gave me 77.29% based on the numbers you provided.

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  • dungeon
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    Originally posted by Nille_kungen View Post
    It uses TGP instead of TDP and we have no idea how things are set up.
    About the math it think they used 65w with the 120w and got ~46% but no one understands how marketing do math.
    Well TDP is Thermal Design Powerwhile TGP is Total Graphic Power, first is design and another is what happen actually with card in whole.

    And card is GPU+board, for example RX 480's Polaris GPU is rated as 110W + board (which include anything which is not actual GPU) around 40W = 150W TDP, while TGP as they measured using 16.6.2 driver was 185W, of course that would change with 16.7.1 driver
    Last edited by dungeon; 07 July 2016, 05:31 PM.

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  • Nille_kungen
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    Originally posted by dungeon View Post
    What differ there is that picture actually shows not 75% power efficiency, but around 45% (typo maybe ), while my percentage calculator over 185W vs 120W say that is 35%... I guess we all calculate percentages differently

    BTW, AMD just released 16.7.1 driver, so now we can throwaway previous (and that 2 days old nvidia's one) comparison into trash can
    It uses TGP instead of TDP and we have no idea how things are set up.
    About the math it think they used 65w with the 120w and got ~46% but no one understands how marketing do math.

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  • vivnet
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    Originally posted by sonnet View Post
    I guess your post is ironic, because if it's not I'd be worried for you..
    I guess I missed the joke. I must have been busy playing games instead of fussing with my drivers.

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  • Ericg
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    Originally posted by bridgman View Post
    Bleah... two posts eaten, third post auto-moderated. I bet this post goes through just fine since it has no useful content...

    EDIT - yep
    On the bright side, all your other posts seem to have eventually came through

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  • Ericg
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    Originally posted by Passso View Post

    How biaised is this graph, starting at 0.8 so that average people think it will 2x because visually the red bar is half the green one... What a shame, all this marketing $hit.
    AMD did something similar for the RX480, it annoyed me too when I noticed the X scale

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  • dungeon
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    Originally posted by vivnet View Post
    I fully expect it to outperform AMD's comparable hardware while being more efficient and having better driver support (given that marketing image is indeed from Nvidia).
    Both picture and words claim similar 15% more perf on average and adventage over RX 480, this is what nVidia claim:


    Across the top gaming titles, GTX 1060 is on average 15 percent faster and over 75 percent more power efficient than the closest competitive product at stock speeds.(1)

    (1) Game list includes BioShock Infinite, Crysis 3, Grand Theft Auto V, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Star Wars Battlefront, Witcher 3, Ashes of the Singularity, The Division, and more. All games tested at 1080p resolution. GTX 1060 was tested with driver version 368.64 with a TGP measured at 120 watts. As of July 5, 2016, AMD RX480 competitive product was tested with driver version 16.6.2 across the same games and resolution with a measured TGP of 185 watts.
    http://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/a-...force-gtx-1060

    What differ there is that picture actually shows not 75% power efficiency, but around 45% (typo maybe ), while my percentage calculator over 185W vs 120W say that is 35%... I guess we all calculate percentages differently

    BTW, AMD just released 16.7.1 driver, so now we can throwaway previous (and that 2 days old nvidia's one) comparison into trash can

    Radeon Software Crimson Edition 16.7.1 Highlights
      • The Radeon™ RX 480’s power distribution has been improved for AMD reference boards, lowering the current drawn from the PCIe bus.
      • A new “compatibility mode” UI toggle has been made available in the Global Settings menu of Radeon Settings. This option is designed to reduce total power with minimal performance impact if end users experience any further issues. This toggle is “off” by default.
      • Performance improvements for the Polaris architecture that yield performance uplifts in popular game titles of up to 3% [1]. These optimizations are designed to improve the performance of the Radeon™ RX 480, and should substantially offset the performance impact for users who choose to activate the "compatibility" toggle.

    So new comparison is needed, default and then maybe with this turned on:


    http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-arti...ase-Notes.aspx
    Last edited by dungeon; 07 July 2016, 05:16 PM.

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